@HaKatan
No its not nonsense. I don’t need to find a sefer. I found MESORA. Speak to Riyzna chasdim. (You made up this rule that I need to find a sefer).
RE EHS using “emotions”. And what do you think the holy satmar reba used? You think that was free from emotions?
i will ask the readers if they should trust HaKatan or R Moshe wolfson zl who said it was haschlata degula and shiveri kelim. Who was/is a bigger tzadi? you tell me if its “nonsense”?
@Non Political: I think R Hutner meant exactly how he said it. People nowadays think that we must follow Brisks ideals and style because they are pure. Noone is saying they aren’t pure. But they don’t decide everything in yddishkit. There are differing opinions and approaches that count as well. In other words the torah doesn’t stop on Har grezim. Just because the holy Birska rav zl held or did something doesn’t mean that klal yisroel has to do it.
You also talk way too deep for me. You are over analyzing zionsim with these deep thoughts. You need to take a step back. Most don’t and I don’t think ever thought so deep. Why is this like a PHD thesis can of ideology. Forgive me for saying you are getting carried away. So is Hakatan.
What is Zionism in simple terms? its that us jews have homeland run by other jews who won’t kill us like the Nazis YMS did and that those who are persecuted like the Soviet jews can be welcome. And that it be in Eretz yisroel. Thats all it is. Why are you making so many torahs out of this? And this in it of itself is not kefira. Many gedolim and ehrlicha jews hled of this such as Ryzhin and others.
Now was it abused by secular jews to throw off torah and try to shmad frum jews? yes it was. But its two separate things. the ideal itself which is to have a homeland and those running it who are ant torah. You’ll find that even people like the Imeri emes only opposed it because of the people running the show. Not because the idea of a home land was bad.
To recap: Rizyna chasdim always held ZIONISM = TORAH. And Mesora counts more than a sefer. Interestingly, that Hakatn won’t dispute that undeniable fact. Also interesting that R Moshe wolfson zl said different than hakatan . Who should we listen to?