this is our own doing…we put everything on the yeshivah, rebbe, administration…where in the torah is it mentioned that when you send a`child to yeashiva you are absolved of their chinuch? we get compliments regarding all our children what balay derech cheretz they are…hows that? because we taught them. whenever we saw them address person not properly like ‘dee’instead of ‘eir’, we corrected it, also to get up for grown ups etc, etc,. ‘noitzair teaina yochal pirya’. plenty adults dont have or dont speak with derech eretz to elders, and that is what their children see. see rashi ‘shimon v’leivi achim’ parshes vaychi
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