Folks, this long debate is all academic. The facts on the ground is Zionism is fading away due to “natural causes”, if you will. There are few Zionists left. And the ones in power are literally giving away the land piecemeal, year by year. The idealists are the ones with white hair, and even they have resigned themselves to the follies of their idealistic youths. From the youth today, few even know what Zionism was.
The Chofetz Chaim’s cry about the State being another Bulgaria is sadly true.