squeak….the common thing for someone who has no answer on a logical argument is to dismiss the questioner as not relevant..you did it pretty well…
What you think is “mainstream’ is only “,mainstream’ in your own narrow circles.There exists other frum circles ,you know….you may want ot ignore them but you cannot make them vanish..
I am not asking anyone to buy my views and the easiset thing to do for people with no argument is to try to silence the other voices. Sorry, but, as long as the moderator allows my comments, I will try to give an alternative view…
Incidentally, you may not have noticed but I usually buttress my arguments with REAL WRITTEN SOURCES, something you (and others) have not done.
I don’t know if I am right anytime or everytime but neither do you. I have said clearly that only history will prove who is right or wrong, whether on Eretz Yisroel and Zionism, whether on modern orthodoxy or other, whether on baalei teshuva and others, whether on shlomo’s music or others,etc..
To date, most of history and reality is on my side. Whether on Eretz Yiroel and ZIonsim, whether on Shlomo’s music or not,whether on baalei teshuva or ignoring them, and other matters are still in the balance.
And whenever did I dispute every godol’s word ? I have questioned SOME words of SOME gedolim. I have said, ad nauseum, that on “milei de-alma”, I will not check my intelligence at the door when asking for advice.You are welcome to do this.
And you said (in your second posting) “as far as reform, I never heard anything about treating them badly”. HUH? Have you actually READ all the previous postings(including from a baal teshuvah, former Reform Jew)? To say that someone is NOT jewish is just a synecure? In my book, this is the wors thing that can happen. THAT IS treating someone BADLY !
Lastly, you seem to be of Yekkeshi origins- as you know the word Austritt- .I respect R”shmason Rafael Hirsch tremendously (we’ll leave aside his encouragement of limudei chol for now) but there were other voices in Germany too, not least Rav Hidesheimer z’l who did not agree with R”S’R” Hirsch on that.
Lastly, in your last paragraph, unfortunately, you show your true colors and for that, I am sad. You dismiss ninety percent of the Jewish people, calling them “dangerous people, “kofrim”, “no reason for interaction” and, worst, “the rest of us can ignore kiruv”.
THank Hakodesh Boruch HUH that you and your ilk will not bring ther geulah but that Elijohuh Hanovi will bring the geulah shleimah. He, of course, if a “kiruv individual par excellence”.