RoB,
L’chaim!!!
000646,
I only respond to your post being that “shtika k’hodah” not be used against me.
“Its the chareidei olam black hat olam who greneraly say that M.O rabbanonim arnt real rabbonim (or gedolim) or are minnim ect. and that M.O. yeshivos shouldnt be called yeshivos, NOT the other way around (yes im sure you can bring me a qoute from a M.O. rabbi who says chareidei yeshivos arnt yeshivos however as a general rule you know I am right)”.
Need I remind you that the Rosh Yeshiva of YU is the Rav of the OU – TOGETHER with the Rosh Yeshiva of Torah Vodaas?
Is he not a real Rav?
As opposed to other MO “Rabbanim” who write articles for the Jerusalem Prust entitled “Moshe Rabbeinu – Great Scholar, poor leader”.
So bottom line – JUST LIKE chareidi Rabbanim – the real ones are real & the fake ones are fake. And Yeshivos as well – some deserve the title & some don’t. The chareidi Rabbonim who speak against MO yeshivos will JUST AS QUICKLY speak against a chareidi institution when they deem it neccesary, if you don’t know that this is the case you either didn’t go to chareidi institutions or slept through your tenure within them.
“It is the chareidei black hat olam who many times wont let there kids play with another kid because he is to “modern” not the other way around”.
100% correct. My best fiend is MO. I don’t let my kids play in his house. The reason is because he lets his kids watch movies on the computer, has secular newspapers with pictures of immodestly dressed women (lashon nekiya) lying on his coffe table & generally runs his house in a way which I believe would negatively impact the spiritual level of my children. (even though he “learns a lot” “keeps halacha 100&” etc. etc.)
He lets his kids play in my house because, well why not?
If both of us are capable of understanding this & it is perfectly logical I don’t see why you seem to be feel that that makes me a bad person.
“It is the chareidei black hat olam that generaly say that there mehalach is the only one that can really be called Torah yiddishkeit NOT the other way around”.
That is also true. The reason is because that is the Mesorah which we have recieved from R’ Shach, The Chazon Ish, The Chofetz Chaim, Rabbeinu Yitzchok Elchanan, R’ Akiva Eiger, The Noda B’yehuda, The Vilna Goan etc. etc. & history has shown that those who veer off of this path sooner or later end up in a situation where either their kids become “chareidi” or go more & more to the left until they fall off the jewish map.
That is the way we see it. We don’t villify, viciously attack, or publicly demean any other jew (except in rare cases of public chillul hashem or some other extraordinary circumstance) rather we are mechanech our children to follow the path of our forefathers & to avoid “new” ideas.
Unfortunately as I pointed out, the posts from non chareidim don’t seem to be as hateless, rather are filled with venomous rhetoric more suitable for Sharpton-led rallies.
All my relatives & aquaintances who are MO seem to look foward & relish any opputinity to bash black hatters & chareidi hashkafa in general & it almost seems as though they peruse the newspapers & internet “looking for ammunition”. I have never noticed this trend amongst chareidim.
Perhaps you live on a different planet than I do & if so then there is really nothing I can do to help you.