Reply To: Melacha Sh’einah Tzricha L’gufa Home › Forums › Yom Tov › Melacha Sh’einah Tzricha L’gufa › Reply To: Melacha Sh’einah Tzricha L’gufa July 13, 2009 10:35 pm at 10:35 pm #650817 PMMember BTW grama can’t be the reason oomis’s Rav “allowed” turning off the stove, because grama is the same with or w/o a pilot light.