Berlin, Regarding your addendum, what I say, I only say respectfully. The language may be tough, but in defense of the Torah that is sometimes necessary. Neverthless, I don’t disrespect you (or anyone) with it. So please don’t look at it that way.
Have you ever heard the Satmar Rebbe, the Brisker Rov, or Rav Amrom Blau Zichronom Tzaddikei Vkodesh L’vrocho zichiso yogen eleinu on this subject? Comparably, my language on this matter is soft and mushy.