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Wolf, no need to apologize, but it was nice of you to do so anyway. Sometimes what we want to say comes out sounding more sarcastic than we intended it to. I didn’t take it as an insult.

But in any case, you are right and I do want to aplogize for my words “an entire group who call themselves Orthodox”. I’m sorry for that. Below is my revised paragraph. Please do not take it as an insult of an entire group and if you fell what I’m saying is not the truth, then we can discuss this. But this is what I see and know is happening.

I don’t want to talk against people who call themselves Orthodox, but what sometimes goes on in circles where boys and girls freely meet, I cannot begin to tell you. Nor do I have to. I’m sure you know yourself what goes on.

I am not indicating whom I was talking about. All I am saying is that in circles where girls and boys freely meet bad things happen.

I personally have nothing against MO’s in general. As I have mentioned in another thread, there is a Young Isreal shul in my area and the people who daven there and they are very nice and frum. I’m impressed by their sincerity, derech eretz, and freindliness. Sometimes I don’t understand why some frum people call themselves MO’s because there are so many variations of MO’s. At one end of the spectrum there are very frum people and at the other end of there are people who clearly violate halacha or Mesorah and purport their hashkafas to be the true ones.

And the fact is, that teens and young adults who meet informaly, VERY OFTEN do behave in a fashion and sometimes even worse fashion than kids from Chariedi families who are called kids at risk. In such settings it is very easy to violate halacha.