GAW: 1) “To see Aggada sources for this understanding of the mitzvah of talmud torah [to connect with God], check up my previous post (page 4) in which I quoted numerous sources.
Yes, but nothing inside. Please show me where I can look it up for myself. There have been way too many misquotes here.”
I just quoted a source in the above post: “V’ahavta Es Hashem Elokecha”; inner love and connection are really the same essence. [How else do you tempt t explain this mitzvah to master tractates of Gemorah which totally don’t contain any halachos that are applicable b’zman hazeh?]
2) “For point 2, you are differentiating between the Chiyuv of Talmud Torah to Mitzva of Limud. I don’t disagree, but Dr. Hall is not incorrect.”
I’m not interested in getting into a tit for tat as to whether I stated that Mr Hall is halachically incorrect [which I actually didn’t].
3) “However, one must still believe in the truth of the agadda in talmud which states that when one does a mitzvah he creates an angel.
I don’t think anyone will disagree, but that is not the point of the mitzva. That is actually similar to being Oved to accept reward (i.e. create a “Malach” (also not explained) that will be a Maylitz for you & the world), which is a lesser madraiyga.”
Absolutely wrong, the creation of the angel shows the actual essence of the mitzvah itself. The mitzvah is the angel, and the angel is the mitzvah; this is how the connection to God occurs, since the angel is the connection. The melitz yosher part is a side point. See how people in your circles don’t delve properly into the meaning of aggados.
4) “Our obligation to believe in this is obviously learned from the mitzvah of “Lidivka Boa” since one cannot possibly obtain deveykus w/o believing in the mystical aspect of the mitzvos. (sic)
Finally, we are getting somewhere. Lidavka Bo. But you don’t explain why you require the mysticism. Rashi seems to say the point is to do Korbanos because Hashem wants it, not mysticism.”
GAW, it is not possible to feel actual connection to God, if you don’t believe in mystical belief that the connection occurs. This is simple logic. I explained to you what Rash”i means in the above post.
5)”If all people in MO community really believed in this spiritual nature of mitzvos,
Which you have still not explained.”
I think I explained it very clearly. The spiritual nature of the mitzvos, is the mystical belief behind it.
6)”The way I see your point is that you believe without Chassidus, Mitvos are “Judaism that carries no spiritual significance”. (paraphrase).
That is OK for you to believe.
And you did not answer my question regarding Lubavitch.”
I’m actually a simple chareidi Jew, w/o any affiliation to any chasidus. I really don’t know why you even think I am a chosid.
SJS: “And why would a woman not want to rely on her husband’s learning? Would you rely on paying someone else to do mitzvos for you? Especially if it helps you connect to Hashem?”
If you believe in what the Gemorah says that a man is not complete with Torah w/o him spiritually giving/sharing the actual Torah that he learns with his wife; then how can you possibly deny him this spiritual fulfillment by opting to ignore his learning and learn yourself?