Isnt giving a ring direct, a problem of kesef kidushin?
In my case, the matter is now academic.
In any event, can it be said that it is kesef kiddushin when both parties know and understand that it’s not and that there will be an actual kiddushin later on?
In other words, if both parties agree that the ring is NOT for kiddushin, then how could you possibly say that it is?
The Wolf