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If you’ve learned anything from the shakla v’tarya of regular learning, Grandmaster, you should know that setting up straw men is a frankly amateurish way to argue. So let me address your points, even though you ignored mine.

Being the am hanivchar means exactly what it says. Chosen. For a higher purpose, a higher calling. An Ohr Lagoyim. It also means chosen for nisayon. As you might know, we don’t always do very well with our nisyonos. Have you learned sefer Shoftim? We have sometimes abjectly failed our nisyonos individually and as a people. We have shown hakodosh boruch hu that we have the potential to lower ourselves to the 49th level of tumah, but also to raise ourselves to the 49th level of purity. If we are superior in ANYTHING, it is in our potential. Don’t ever have the arrogance to think we are at the 49th level of purity simply by being born into yiddishkeit. We have to work at it. Anivus, by the way, is something else we should work on.

I fully concede that the yeshivos in NY and elsewhere do not have a gun problem. I’ve got a newsflash for you, though. Young people are physically hurt and bullied every single day in yeshivos, as they are elsewhere. there is a makkah of lack of derech eretz and lack of kovod all over the place. If you want to take comfort and pride in the fact that our bochurim are not shooting each other, please do so. I’m more concerned about the problems that need to be addressed, rather than the ones that don’t.

I don’t live in New York, and where I live the public schools don’t have metal detectors, so I can’t speak to the NY experience. Frankly, though, it is an irrelevancy and a straw man, because I never asserted that all yeshivos were more dangerous than all public schools.

Now perhaps you could address the points I raised.