Again, Mw13, WE have discussed this inside and out. I have stated many of the items that was brought to the surface in previous discussions and that is why I suggested that you go back to those threads and read them. There is really no reason to do this over again, when it was reviewed chapter and verse bringing down many sources for both perspectives. I posted some of the things I remembered from that thread. As mentioned before it was thoroughly reviewed and there is a lot to learn from reviewing it, seriously, I wasn’t joking. I am NOT interested in arguing the points with you, line by line or otherwise, all these points were dissecting before by many posters.
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