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anon1mous
of course, in an ideal society men would not look at women. But lo nitnu hatorah limalachim. The world in its current state is not the ideal.
but there is another issue here, specifically addressing the women, regardless of any men around. One must still be tnius in the privacy of their own home. If “not being provocative” is an attitude, regardless of anything that may result ie men looking, whether men are looking or not is irrelevant.
manohman
the question is where “the feelings of the woman” are coming from and whether they are justification, in terms of halacha.
dy
clever haha. It’s interesting to see people’s opinions on the contrasting issues. Pacman is consistently for side of modesty when in doubt… I want the kindelach in here (teenage girl demographic) to see what they think