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sorry pac_man( and I still want to know why the name pac_man}i have worked and still talk to kids from all walks of life. I see first hand, because this city is so diverse and because of the very public positions i have had, what kind of kids have gone otd and what kind of families they have come from. Unfortunatly you and I don’t know each other and probably never will, we could probably have some great discussions about various topics. Problem is you do not, as far as I can tell, have to do with people other than your type and I do not mean any disrespect by that. You just probably have not dealt on a day to day basis with such a broad range of people that I have. No I am not a frum bartender. But please unless you have come from where I came from or have walked in my shoes,or dealt with the people that I have dealt with, do not say that I don”t know what I am talking about. To jakyweb the policy as i said was started at the end of last year, a month or two before the graduating class of 2010, so my kids were there way before policy was instituted, and no one said boo until then. This is a totally new rule.I agree with your last statement if you don”t want to be there don”t come to the graduation, sad but true