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☕ DaasYochid ☕
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hello,

Nice to hear from you again (I thought I gave myself a longer vacation from you by sending you that teshuva, but you must be a speed reader! 🙂 )

Thanks for your candor (expected by now).

I do hear your ????? between ?? ???… but if you deny the existance in ??”? of spontaneous generation, then you are forced to say that in these cases (you didn’t address ??????) the worms achieve the status of the host despite the fact that there is only a ????? ?? ???. Or else reject these ???’? of the ??”? and ??????’s understanding of the ????, which I doubt you would be willing to do. It would be quite interesting to find a ???? who is ???? the worms and therefore is now ???? selling ???? ????? to a ?”?! And is now ???? eating meat after wormy cheese! (Alternatively, requiring ????? ?’ ???? even with the worms removed)!

In other words, wheras I would not have such a problem making the ?????, one who says that SG is “a concept alien to ??”?” would be caught in a ??? ????.

You might be right about my decimal point, (I often write these posts way past my bedtime), but here’s a place to check:

http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_all.htm

When I put in 0.03mm, I get: 0.03 millimeter = 30 micron

From wikipedia references (under Orders of magnitude (length) )

I think 100 microns is the average. (It says there 90.) BTW, it says over there that 45 microns is “close to the limit of resolution for the human eye”. I’m not sure how close, and anyway it’s not an extremely precise number.

“If the eggs of anisakis are borderline on this ?????, it is logical to assume that the immature larva immediately upon hatching are SMALLER, not larger as you wrote, because they must fit inside the egg. Even if the krill do not swallow them immediately on hatching, it is doubtful if they grow significantly before they have any source of nourishment as they cannot eat without a host.”

I think you are correct; now we’re even on the candor. 🙂 However, after they hatch, they uncoil and become longer and thinner, which makes them more visible.

“Furthermore, I have not seen any indication if the scientists know whether the anisakis are swallowed by krill after they hatch or while they are still inside their eggs.”

I have. From CDC:

“The eggs become embryonated in water, and first-stage larvae are formed in the eggs. The larvae molt, becoming second-stage larvae , and after the larvae hatch from the eggs, they become free-swimming . Larvae released from the eggs are ingested by crustaceans “

http://www.dpd.cdc.gov/dpdx/html/anisakiasis.htm

I therefore do not believe that the only information available leans to the side of ????, ?????. Besides, I don’t think we would say ?? ??????? ??????; I think the rules of ???? would have us assume that since when we see it in the fish it was visible, it was visible in the water (???? ?????). I’m looking forward to your response; have a good ???! And enjoy your herring!