MiddleMan
“So, it is quite possible that this boy is still a good, frum yeshiva boy, and even a “ben torah”, whose ideas of overstepping boundaries may be a bit different from mine or yours. I think this is what Mr. Taxman meant when he said we shouldn’t judge or label others.”
We don’t redefine Ben Torah as we see fit to meet the circumstances. The Torah is immutable and so is the meaning of a Ben Torah. Just because you go to Yeshivah or attended one doesn’t make you a Ben Torah by a long shot.