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Feif Un -“Health, I disagree – most kollel guys COULD find jobs if they wanted to. When those who leave kollel to go work do so, most find jobs pretty quickly.”

I didn’t think you would agree! So you make up these statistics to go along with your beliefs, even though nothing you wrote is True!

“When I said “act like this”, I meant l’chatchilah taking money that is supposed to only be for a b’dieved.”

They only take it because it’s a B’dieved. Repeating your belief hundreds of time doesn’t make it True!

“If kollel guys didn’t take government money, and the system was the way it should be, maybe I’d be more inclined to support them.”

So they should starve while you Think about it? Good one!

“The way it is now is a joke (a very bad one), and I won’t support it.”

You wouldn’t support it – no matter what because you and other MO’s don’t believe in this way of life!

“You can argue the cause for what you do all you want, but don’t try to put the blame on other people. The blame lies squarely on those in the kollels.”

Actually I wasn’t arguing or blaming anyone. You came here cursing out Kollel guys and I defended them. So if you want to come here & blame s/o -blame the Jews who won’t support Torah for Kollel guys- so they end up having to take Gov. support!

“The fact is that people in kollel don’t know what it means to be moser nefesh to sit and learn. People then didn’t know where their next meal would come from. That is true mesiras nefesh, and it weeded out those who weren’t serious about their learning from those who were. I think we need to have this again, so we can see who the true learners are.”

Does anybody in the Goldene Medina know what Mesiras Nefesh is?

You have to live in the here & now, not in the Alte Heim!

Compared to the Jews like you in America -Kollel guys are much more Moser Nefesh in their lifestyle!