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I insulted no one. I accept that the Yeshivah world has a derech that they follow that has certain hashkafos that are a little more stringent than others follow. I have met only a very few Yeshivish young men who actually knew how to start and hold a conversation with a female who was not his immediate relative. most of the young men whom I have mnet over the years, do NOT know how to talk to a girl. And sometimes the girls do not know how to talk to a guy. And yes, the non-Yeshivish world has its share, too, but in a different way.

The fact that so many mentors and facilitators seem to be necessary nowadays (and please do not try to tell me this is not so, I constantly see articles everywhere, that are being written by frum dating experts who keep advising their readers to find a good mentor to instruct them on how to act on a date), seems to indicate to me that young men and women who grow up in certain environments, often have poor social skills (not to mention manners). Is this true of ALL Yeshivish people??? Of course not! That WOULD be insulting to imply that. But in my experience, it is true of MANY.

And yes, many people do manage to marry and raise families,in spite of being socially inept.If you disagree, fine. That does not necessarily mean I am incorrect. I don’t generally make statements that are not based in my own personal observations. Your observations are apparently different from mine. And I have as much right to express my opinion as you do. I am sorry you feel I insulted the Yeshivah world, that certainly is not my intent. I am merely defending my position that socialization is not a bad thing, under controlled environments, and was the norm when I was growing up. And my generation had far less trouble getting married than does the present one. Draw your own conclusions.