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Zionism and the State have been unbelievably horrific disasters for our people. You can debate your Rambans and Rambams all you want, but, in addition to the clear multiple violations of the Torah that is Zionism, the facts on the ground are that Zionism and the State, as the holy Chafetz Chaim and many others said it would, has caused far more problems than the wicked Zionists thought they would solve.

Here’s a very quick and very much-abbreviated list. Before Zionism means before Zionism, not “Before 1948”.

Before Zionism, Teimanim had their mesorah and yahadus since bayis rishon and tens of thousands of sefardim were also still observant Jews, as would have been their descendants today and beyond.

Before Zionism, the Arabs did not virulently hate the Jews, and were generally cordial and even friendly. Even post-Zionism, some Arabs still recognize the fraud that is Zionism and correctly do not equate Zionism with, lihavdil, Judaism.

Before Zionism, Jews and Arabs lived peacefully in Eretz Yisrael (Just to head off the uninformed question, the Chevron Massacre was a direct result of *religious* Zionism – please excuse the paradox – according to Rabbi Baruch Kaplan who was there.)

Before Zionism, Jews were not seduced into becoming “post-Jewish” and culturally manipulated by (Zionist) Jews into giving up their faith in favor of Zionism.

Before Zionism, there was no need to send every young man and woman of 18 years old into the anti-Torah army that is the IDF nor was there the need for them to risk their life and limb by doing so.

May Hashem redeem us all, bringing the true Geulah, BB”A.