i have so much to say on the subject, but i dont doubt the mods wont let me pass…..
chosson, i must say you are very ignorant to the facts, probably you are still a chosson and dont know, but husband and wife holding hands in the privacy of their homes is Kedusha and nothing less. so please learn what is and isnt kedusha and tahara before expousing your views here!!!
but i will add, the Steipler Zatzal came out very strongly against the takanos of Ger, i dont believe anyone in the coffee room is of the calibre of the steipler to are argue with him.
so without going into details, the takanos are wrong, the joke about the grocery store is sadly not a joke!!! it is the reality!!! and that is why the Steipler came out so strong against it.
as my Rov once put it, nature beckons and if we try to fight the nature that Hashem created in this world then only bad comes from it. Hashem made the world to run a certain way, intimacy is part of nature and the torah stipulates how this works, to fight it is fighting nature and IT DOESNT WORK!!!!! not for anyone!!!!
as i began, i have much to say, based on fact, out of respect to the coffee room, the mods, and the readers i am witheld from writing them, i wish i could but i cant.