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far east -“no difference its a meaningless label. im just curious as to why you think its such a terrible thing to be a liberal?

As of now i support civil unions because why should they not get the tax benefits of a normal couple.”

The term liberal as it is used nowadays, not the way it was used once upon a time, is a Bad thing. You just posted that you support civil unions -this is a liberal position. You get labeled a certain way when you espouse that way’s philosophies.

I just posted a whole piece why there is nothing wrong with outlawing Toeiva in American society. Maybe you didn’t understand it or you don’t understand the connection of our laws to morality. Anyways liberals have convinced most Americans that they are something bad if they don’t support Toieva Rights. The way they did this was with lying and manipulating.

I’ll repeat the point of my previous post -We as Americans have the right to legislate Morality even if it means outlawing Toeivas. And even if this Morality is based on Religion there is nothing wrong with that.

I think we should have an Asifa regarding Daaos Kozvos. I know many people from the Frum community who think we can’t outlaw Toeiva and we can’t vote for s/o who is against Toeiva. Some of these same people have never watched a movie or surfed the Net.

Now I just posted there is nothing wrong acc. to American Philosophy to be against Toeiva. So how come hardly anyone is making a Machoh on this issue? I would think that this is what the Torah requires one to do, esp. since acc. to Goyishe Philosophy there is no problem in doing so!