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far east -“Notice how he says you should be CAREFUL not to drink a LOT. Does he say its assur anywhere? It may be an issue of ushmartem es nafsheichem, but then again so is drinking any unhealthy drinks such as soda.”

He has a whole chapter on Drunkedness. Obviously I couldn’t quote the whole thing, but e/o should look it up themselves.

Yes, he does differentiate between drinking a lot and getting drunk.

Getting drunk -he says is Ossur. Drinking a lot -he says is a very Bad Middah.

Noone talked about “ushmartem es nafsheichem”. This is something you made up. I don’t think this would apply to drinking a lot once in awhile, just like it doesn’t apply to soda. But you can ask your LOR about this.

Getting back to the topic. The OP was talking about drunks and so was some other posters. This is clearly Ossur & a Chillul Hashem acc. to the C.C.

Even if your kid (or you) just drinks a lot, even on let’s say just Fri. nite, without getting drunk, this is a very bad Middah.

Do you want your kid(s) (or yourself) to have a very bad Middah?

I know I don’t!