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rabbiofberlin
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I wrote a response to choppy and daas yochid but I see the moderators in their wisdom did not post it, so let me try agasin,

choppy- i do believe that everyone shoudl contribute to tghe welfare of Eretz Ysroel, each according to his/her possibilities. This can include army, national service and even learning Torah. What I said was that it is impossible to have systme where tens of thousands of people rely upon the tsibbur. It carries the seeds of destruction sit- just look at what is happening to the welfare states in Europe and what will happen to the US- regardless of the merits of the people- one must be able to contribute. And I wrote that if you don’t want to serve in the army, so be it- but don’t expect the tsibbur to finance whole cities, this is just untenable.I was not obscring anything.

to daas jochid- From the eearliest days, there were always people in our history who learned but the vast majority worked. From the gemoro- see berochos 35- to the rishonim -see what the Rambam writes about people using Torah to earn a livin- to our acharonim- the chaey adam, the mateh efraim were business people, even the chofezt chaim earned a lving in some way-are you tellign me that all of these people did not give the primacy to the Torah??? preposterous. the klal has many people and everyone is part of a klal,even if they work !