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Mods, please close this thread. I am beyond torn by it. On the hand hand I don’t C”V want to harm anyone’s Emunah. On the other hand, I feel like seeing these incorrect proofs for the Torah will harm people’s Emunah once they realize why it’s incorrect. That is a major problem with people’s Emunah being based on “proof”. Once you realize that the proof isn’t ironclad, you might C”V start to doubt the Ikkar involved. There are lower-level “proofs” that we all need to find for ourselves, but the basis has to be belief. Thus, no good can come from discussing these proofs so long as there are people involved whose source for Emunah is a proof. It’s one thing if we knew that everyone here had complete Emunah and that the proofs are just a nice addition. Then the proofs are worth discussing. But since I am sure that there are people here who would stop believing (or at least have questions) if their particular proof was disproven, no good can come of this discussion in an open forum. So please, close this thread.