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HaKatan
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coffee addict, the Torah itself commands us to not pay heed to miracles, but it’s anyways not a proof to anything here. Not to mention we anyways don’t know Hashem’s ways and reasons: “Ki lo Machshivosai Machshivoseichem viLo Darkeichem Dirachai…”, as we see in Navi.

This has all been hashed and rehashed before.

By your logic, Hitler’s rise to power and his terrible atrocities was also what Hashem “wanted”, because if you study the history of how he got to where he did, there was no realistic way that it should have ever happened. It was nissim that the Holocaust DID happen, on the scale of Purim (lihavdil, ayein the mifarshim).

I apologize if this offended anyone, but this truth is very illustrative of how fallacious this Zionist fantasy is; nissim are not endorsement, as Hashem Himself says so in the Torah.

Also, one who holds your logic might explain why they don’t convert to Christianity or Islam. How did those faiths come to claim well over a billion of combined adherents, if it wasn’t the ratzon Hashem? Obviously, Hashem does things that aren’t necessarily what we should be aiming for, which He has His Own reasons for.

Regardless, in the nidon didan, the alternative to those nissim was and still is, Hashem Yishmor, “lo nishtaaru miSoneihem shel Yisrael afilu sarid uPalit” in Eretz Yisrael. So the reason for those nissim is pretty clear: simple pikuach nefesh. Not to mention that Hashem can have his own reasons that have nothing to do with endorsing Zionism, such as allowing bechira, etc.

It is sadly foolish and a chutzpah to take these chasdei Hashem, past and present, as an endorsement of this maaseh satan which has been, sadly, so successful in fooling our people.