Reply To: Coincidence or Not?

just my hapence -“Health – Fine, so Irene was as a result of Charedi Brooklyners bashing MO and YU then..”

Noone said there can’t be many reasons. I never said my reason was the only one.

“Nothing is coincidence but correlation does not equal causation. And I seriously doubt that you are capable of figuring out HKB’H’s reasons for how he runs the world.

This does not mean that we are defending these peoples’ actions, believe me, I’m the last to do that, just that your arrogant claim to know what HKB’H told Moshe Rabeinu that no-one is capable of knowing needs to be properly put into perspective.”

Because you misinterpreted my post – you wrote what you did. I never said I know 100% why this storm came. If the timeline of these storms are right after a bad occurrence here, we don’t have to put our heads in the sand and pretend that one thing could not possibly have to do with the other. The fact that Hashem brought the Mabul because of Kesubos for Miskav Zochor is enough for me to consider that this could possibly be the reason over here. It’s actually your arrogance that you seem to imply that this couldn’t possibly be the reason.

“And, just to put a word in for plumba, if the Torah equates them (it uses the same word to describe all of them [though plumba is mistaken in claiming that the Torah calls eating ma’acholos asuros a to’eva]) then, whilst we certainly view certain things as being more distasteful than others, in the Torah viewpoint there is no distinction between how much of a to’eva mishkav zochor is as compared to cheating in business. In fact the Gemoro says that one of the first questions we will all be asked l’achar me’oh v’esrim is whether our masoh u’maton was b’tzeddek. Not whether or not we engaged in certain relationships.”

This is the one of the most Krumme posts I have ever read. All Toeivas are equal? The Torah views Genaiva such as cheating in business as equal to Mishkav Zochor? The reason some Aveiros have worse punishments than others because they are worse Aveiros.

FYI, Mishkav Zochor has a worse punishment than Stealing! It’s also from the 3 Aveiros Chamuros where the Din is Yahrog V’al Yavor!