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I’d also like to add my comments to some of the previous posts here.

farrocks:

That being said, what everyone seems to be missing is who is truly the most responsible for the person going off the derech. And that, of course, is the person himself who went OTD.

You know nothing of the pain suffered by any of the individuals in question, or you would not be so quick to judge.

In addition, that statement helps nobody. Blaming the victim will not help you prevent others from leaving religion. The purpose here isn’t to blame the schools or the parents, it’s to understand what’s going wrong and to fix it.

He will face consequences down here

What consequences are there down here?

and, most importantly, he will face the music upstairs

Do I need to point out that this won’t scare anybody who is no longer religious?

ready now:

I’m not sure if you realize that you do not sound like you’re engaging in a dialogue, rather, it comes across as preaching. All the things you list as being “the best” are all things that I grew up with, and gave up. Clearly, we disagree on what the best things in life are.

PuhLease:

I’m sorry to hear how you were treated.

groisnaches:

that you knowingly are shortening your loving grieving parents’ lives

You can only live your life for somebody else for so long. At some point, you need to be true to yourself. And I’d hope that as a parent, that’s what you want for you child.

But let’s be honest – when somebody becomes frum, we don’t worry too much about whether their parents are grieving.