plonis – First of all, I think you may want to rely a little less on your predictive text thing ;-). It’s ‘just my hapence’, not ‘happenstance’.
Second, I know KW was being general. That was my whole problem. I wasn’t trying to get her to be specific, I was showing her that in trying to say what people should and shouldn’t wear based on what is and isn’t ‘regal’ you would need specificity (THIS is regal, THIS is not) which is impossible. I know there is the ‘spirit’, but that’s just it, a ‘spirit’, an abstract, an indefinable ‘something’. To try and make overly general statements like ‘long hanging hair’ really misses the point. The ‘spirit’ of tznius is one of the those things that you cannot say exactly what it is, but you can see it when it isn’t there. (I know that sounds a bit paradoxical, but I think you understand what I mean…)
Third, as regards to Oz V’Hadar Levusha, Rav Falk may make distinctions between ‘halacha’ and ‘refined’, but it still not really appropriate to try and define ‘refined’ in the first place. See above.
Finally, if my Rav would have a problem with denim, I can assure you that his daughters and granddaughters wouldn’t wear it. He isn’t that kind of Rav to not say anything to them if he didn’t like it, they aren’t the type of daughters and granddaughters to do it if he didn’t like it. I have enough inside knowledge of the family to say that quite categorically. Besides, I have asked him outright if he has a problem with it. The answer was a resounding ‘no’.