The pirkei avos thing was auto correct. Regarding everything else, its clear you misunderstood my point, and by calling me an apikores I assumed you were trying o hide your lack of understanding with insults, which is never okay.
The fact is, chazal were people, and certainly weren’t scientists for the most part. Therefore, its inconceivable that everything they said about science is correct. Does that make them less great? No, it just means I don’t rely on the Talmud for science or medical advice, but moral instruction and explanation of Halacha. I hope you don’t think chazal were infallible and cannot possibly be wrong about science.
Chazal’s values aren’t primitive and I never said that chas v’sholom. All I said is that CERTAIN (I have to capitalize for you people) ideals they believed were influenced by non Jewish ideals and thinkers (see rambam learning from Aristotle for a prime example). Just like chazal learned science from goyim and chochmas yevanis, so too certain ideas they held are sociologically based and stem from the ideas of whatever society they lived in. Most of Halacha isn’t like this, but here its obvious it is, because of the similarities in thought.