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Most b’nei Torah in E.Y. (according to relatives I’ve spoken to) don’t live at a much higher standard than that.
And those are the ones who will continue learning without subsidies. Furthermore, (IMHO) they will get more support since those supporting will know they are learning by choice, not just to avoid Nachal Charaidi.
You also did not address my other points, but I’ll leave that.
I never used to self-describe as chareidi, until the past year or two. But I’m happy to wear it; I’m happy to affiliate as chareidi.
Ich bin chareidi.
I used to self-describe as chareidi (type: American), until the past year or four. But now I’m unhappy to wear it; I’m unhappy to affiliate as chareidi. I can’t be part of a system that does not condemm the Yad Eisav as a solution, any more than I could identify with a society that does not expel suicide bombers. I can’t be part of a system that teaches sinah for other Yidden, that uses sheker to promote its causes (even to the unwashed masses). (and I can’t blame the mods if they don’t post this)
What am I? I’ll use the same term Rashi translates for Charaidi (in Ezra) and Rav Moshe used. Yeraim.
(as per Google),
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(And I’m sad that I am no longer)