apusehtayid and aries, you people are not being honest because I say I act with respect to them but I don’t respect them and you decided that the fact that I don’t respect their actions means I don’t act with respect to them. YOU DECIDED HOW I ACT TO THEM AND WRITE THEM AS FACTS.
You see whant you want to.
In addition how many times to I have to repeat myself that people change because they want to not because I say something?
Philo, the reason there is no point discussing anything with you is because you just want to argue and answer everyone point by point because of your “need to be right”.
No one is forcing you to respond to me. There is no point in your responding to my posts that I address to you if you don’t want to, unless you have that “need to be in the right”.
aries, by the way, I thought you are not going to respond to me. Why aren’t you letting my answers slide off you, as you said you will do?
Anyway,please cut out your therapist/counselor assumptions and decide what I base my decisions on. I have only told you about one OTD person and I have not told you about the first hand knowledge that I have of a lot of OTD’s.
As far as the other posters that said that RESPECT needs to be earned, that is a goyish concept
Interesting. A Jew who has left the fold has the almost the same halachas as a goy has regarding the way we treat him regarding many issues (excluding acting with respect towards them , which I never objected to). Sinners have different halachas as well regarding dan lkaf zchus and loshen hora. Is that because we are to respect a frum Jew the same as a non-frum Jew?
According to the Torah. WE are commanded to respect ALL of Hashem’s creations therefore RESPECT is a given
Good, go ahead respect Hitler and Stalin y”s, respect Osama bin Laden, respect Madoff, respect those who abuse others, respect them in the same vein you respect all sinners and kofrim.
I constantly meet young men and young ladies who look familiar to me and I can’t place them. And then I remember that young good looking yeshiva boy, used to have really long hair and was really rough around the edges. They come over and say Mrs ” “, remember me?
If you had a hand in making them frum great, but please excuse me if I doubt your insinuations that you created many baal teshuvos as you sound to be yes, a nice caring person, but also naive and full of self importance, basing your total assumptions of how I came to my decisions on the fact that I helped a freind.