Cellphone Jammers in Shuls

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  • #1184204

    lesschumras
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    If, as people have stated, the jammers are illegal, what’s the point of this discussion?

    #1184205

    Joseph
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    They’re legal and used in shuls in Eretz Yisroel.

    #1184206

    takahmamash
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    They’re legal and used in shuls in Eretz Yisroel.

    Sadly.

    #1184207

    yehudayona
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    Whether they’re legal in Israel is a machlokes Feivel and Zahavasdad.

    #1184209

    Joseph
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    takah, can’t you wait to check the score after you left shul? 😉

    #1184210

    feivel
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    I withdraw. ZD is correct. Sort of. They are illegal for individuals.

    Although their use is generally overlooked, like jaywalking here.

    Any organization can easily get a permit if they want but no one bothers.

    So they tell me.

    His ubiquitous Google finger finally finds something accurate.

    #1184211

    takahmamash
    Participant

    takah, can’t you wait to check the score after you left shul? 😉

    Believe it or not, I don’t follow any teams so closely that I need to know scores.

    I find it terribly sad that people can’t control themselves for 45 minutes or so without looking at their phones. I see people all the time checking their phones during chazaras hashatz, as if they might lose their job or the world might end if the emails aren’t read immediately.

    I find it sad that shules would put people in danger by jamming cell phone signals.

    #1184212

    feivel
    Participant

    Well, technically accurate anyway.

    #1184213

    feivel
    Participant

    I find it sad that shules would put people in danger by jamming cell phone signals.

    They’re not putting anyone in danger. They are causing a possible delay in the response to a potential danger which is extremely infrequent.

    Adaraba, they are trying to remove people from a very real, severe, and ever present eternal danger.

    #1184214

    feivel
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    Just thought I’d point that out.

    But in truth I think it won’t do much at all to solve the problem.

    And I don’t think it’s nice.

    #1184215

    zahavasdad
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    They’re not putting anyone in danger. They are causing a possible delay in the response to a potential danger which is extremely infrequent.

    If someone is having a heart attack , every second counts, thats why many places now have difibulators onsite. ANd while its infrequent that things occur, it does happen enough to make a differnce. Most of us have been in shul at some time when Hatzolah needed to be called (or whatever they use in Israel)

    #1184216

    takahmamash
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    They’re not putting anyone in danger. They are causing a possible delay in the response to a potential danger which is extremely infrequent.

    I’ll bet that the people that are chas v’shalom trapped in that dangerous situation, no matter how infrequent, would not want any delay in the response. I know I wouldn’t.

    #1184217

    DaasYochid ☕
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    I think we should be satisfied with nothing less than two armed security guards, and a fully equipped Hatzolah member and ER doctor in every shul at all times.

    #1184218

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Many Shuls do have doctors or Hatzolah members who regulary attend.

    And Security guards arent a Joke, Ive actually seen that in Europe. In many countries you cannot go to shul unless you get permission before Shabbos (If they know you, it isnt a problem, but if they dont) It totally freaked me out

    #1184219

    DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    They shouldn’t just be there regularly, they should be there whenever they’re open. And not just in Europe, everywhere.

    Then they could jam everyone’s cell phones without putting everyone’s lives in severe danger.

    #1184220

    zahavasdad
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    I wouldnt be surprised if they are in israel and I think even in the US, some have that

    There was a stabbing at 770, I am sure they hired security guards after that

    #1561401

    jew boy2
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    bump

    #1561592

    takahmamash
    Participant

    If jew boy2 has nothing to add to this, why would you bump a 2-year-old thread?

    #1561611

    zahavasdad
    Participant

    I think he is trying to compare to the Hatzolah Scanners

    Its not exactly the same, The cell phone jammers are Illegal and its not clear of the Hatzolah Radios are illegal

    #1561612

    Joseph
    Participant

    Takah: Calling someone a “Jew boy” ain’t nice!

    #1562116

    NOYB
    Participant

    So aside from being illegal, at least in the US, a hatzalah phone does not account for:
    Fires
    Police-related issues
    Doctors
    Hatzalah (let’s be honest, after 3 months the phone breaks and no one is ever gonna fix it)
    People with family issues (I guess people whose wives are expecting or those with sick family just shouldn’t daven for a while?)
    People who need to be contacted for other reasons (shomrim, hatzalah, during the summer chaveirim if a baby is stuck in a car)
    or anyone else who might for some reason need their phone.
    Instead of blocking and banning, maybe we should just teach people self-control and politely ask them to follow the rules. I personally would worry about those who talk and disturb others before those who are just disrespectful themselves on their phones anyway.

    #1562152

    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Do any phones have a setting where you can set certain numbers as urgent and only have it ring for those numbers?

    #1562172

    NOYB
    Participant

    iPhones have a mode called “do not disturb” where that can be done.

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