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    TheGoq
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    I have recently come to appreciate a nice cigar if i have 2 a week (just in the warmer months) how much risk am i putting myself in?

    I know I should ask my local orthodox doctor. but know there are some health care professional’s in the CR.

    #1160014
    Health
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    Goq -“but know there are some health care professional’s in the CR.”

    From Cancer.gov:

    “Cigars can be a major source of indoor air pollution (1). There is no safe level of exposure to tobacco smoke. If you want to reduce the health risk to yourself and others, stop smoking.

    Do cigars cause cancer and other diseases?

    Yes. Cigar smoking causes cancer of the oral cavity, larynx, esophagus, and lung. It may also cause cancer of the pancreas. Moreover, daily cigar smokers, particularly those who inhale, are at increased risk for developing heart disease and other types of lung disease. Regular cigar smokers and cigarette smokers have similar levels of risk for oral cavity and esophageal cancers. The more you smoke, the greater the risk of disease.”

    #1160015
    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Clearly a troll. Everyone knows that REAL Orthodox Jews would never go to med school.

    #1160016
    I. M. Shluffin
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    If you’re asking about the health difference between cigarettes, cigars, and the like, I’ll quote the Mayo Clinic website in saying that “there is no safe form of tobacco.” As it happens to be, though, the dangers of cigar smoking are worse than those of cigarette smoking. The same amount of tobacco in one cigar can equal 15 to 20 cigarettes. Regular cigar smokers often don’t realize that it’s k’ilu they’re smoking a pack a day, or even more. People tend to think that cigars are less problematic because it’s not so much breathing in as exhaling the smoke. However, this just means that they can get cancer of the lips, mouth, throat, and tongue, instead of their lungs.

    And as Health said, cigars present the huge issue of secondhand smoke, wherein those in your immediate vicinity (typically family, friends, coworkers and chavrusahs) are harmed more than you are. And as you undoubtedly know, cancer is not something most people want to live with – so they die. Think of people you know who have been deleteriously affected by smoking habits and/or secondhand smoke. Please, don’t become a statistic.

    As it seems to be a recent habit of yours, I would suggest withdrawing as soon as possible, if that was your eventual plan anyhow. Nicotine can enter your system via absorption into the lining of your mouth, even if you don’t inhale it. It’ll just get harder if you push it off. Hatzlacha.

    #1160017
    yehudayona
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    Cigars are worse than either Clinton or Trump. Come to think about it, they’re worse than Clinton AND Trump put together.

    #1160019
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    Cigars don’t kill people, people kill people. Clinton and Trump are people, so they are the real killers.

    #1160020
    TheGoq
    Participant

    I appreciate all the input just to note the secondhand smoke is not an issue because i smoke alone and on the porch.

    #1160021
    blubluh
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    Before I add my two cents to the discussion, I want to state that I personally concur with the position that the only “healthy” choice with regard to smoking is to avoid it altogether. Hence, my “analysis” below is nonsensical to begin with.

    Having said that, an interesting consideration is the effect of cost and availability on the frequency and duration of smoking and, by extension, effects on health.

    An individual cigarette costs much less than the typical cigar and cigarettes are packaged many to a pack. This may lead to increased smoking in the case of cigarettes, which would presumably increase the health risks of that product over cigars.

    Also, cigars self-extinguish if not continuously puffed, whereas cigarettes continue burning and emitting fumes until they run out of leaves or are put out. So, theoretically, a casual cigar smoker could possibly have less exposure to fumes.

    None of this does, however, provides any guidance as to whether the intensity, volume or composition of cigarette smoke is qualitatively better or worse than that of cigars. That would take a fairly rigorous study and is probably not all that meaningful in the long run.

    Not smoking is the far cheaper, more convenient and healthier choice.

    #1160022
    huju
    Participant

    As Rabbi Freudenfeld said, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar, but that does not mean you should smoke them.

    #1160023
    aitn
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    Maybe you could smoke one at Havdala; and be a little martyr for some sort of mitzva mehuda?

    #1160024
    huju
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    “Good” cigars are like “good” whiskey – taste terrible, harsh on the tongue, but a somewhat socially acceptable to pretend you have more money than others. Wasting money on cigars and whiskey is much cheaper than wasting it on pricey cars or airplanes. And it occurs to me that the Donald does not smoke or drink, which shows you that his way of pretending to have lots of money is really inefficient. Not a good quality in a public official.

    #1160025
    Sparkly
    Member

    You should not smoke its against the Torah. It makes a person become sick and ruins their health and according to the Torah your now allowed to make your health bad.

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