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You guys must be kidding….Eyeshadow + eyliner is best, if applied well! You gotta play around till you get the right look but dont drop the liner!
mytake
Everyone does their own thing, makeup is definitely not a one size fits all.
Personally, I wouldnt wear shadow without liner because my eyes are very almond shaped, so the liner does more for me than shadow.
Sac and other ladies,
Most men have no idea about all the makeup stuff you talking about.
I think that most men are not so particular about hair style either, as long as it’s clean and kempt. As far as I know, most men like longer hair.
MDG
Men dont care about the practical terms and applications, but they sure as heck know what they like.
My brother once said to me, “You can have any girl that you please. The problem is that you don’t please any girl.” Knowing that he was right, I was not too judgmental. I finally got one that I could snooker… um… I mean please.
But I do have to agree with you that men do know what they like, even if they can’t articulate it.
I have big eyes so I can get away with not too much liner.
MDG
Lots of men say they want natural. If you’d only know what the girls go through to pull off the natural look…
dunno
I dont know what color eyes you have, but since you have big eyes you have a big palette to work w, did you ever consider using a different color other than black for liner?
wearing all black makes a person look skinnier thats why most girls wear black
Sac
Yeah. I tried blue…it looked really cool but I’m too conservative to walk outta the house in that.
What about grey?
Sac
Never thought about gray. I’ll probably stick to black though.
dunno,
I did not know how hard it could be to look natural.
Have you ever thought about (dark) navy blue? It can look almost black.
I prefer straight hair but by no means will I not go out with a girl if her hair is curly. I don’t think it would be that big of a deal for any guy unless he’s really vain.
MDG
Now I’m confused. Are you a guy or a girl?
I once went to shul wearing a blue suit. I looked around the shul to see that I was the only one not wearing black. Was that not tzniusdik, since I definetly was different than everyone else.
wear whatever you want, there are way to many unofficial rules. i think i guy will be impressed that a girl had the guts to wear something thats not black, or wears curly hair
i actually think that when girls blow their hair to make it curly/wavy/bouncy, it looks gorgeous. very elegant. sophisticated. if ur talking about that u have really curly hair, do to it what makes you feel good. yes, ultimately you should love ur hair as is. and i’m not saying you don’t. i love my hair B”H. but i blow and iron it all the time. for work, for shabbos…. so do what makes you feel good about urself. don’t you wanna be confident and happy about ur appearance?and not only on a date, but all the time.
I can’t believe there is a thread about this!! But if my 2 cents would be a help, I’ll add it. I am a guy in shidduchim.
I love curly hair!! I think it is a cool flair that if taken care of can look great!! Please don’t straighten for dates!!
Once we on the topic, I hate hate hate BLACK!!! Girls, I know its classy, thinning, and elegant. But if you really had style and class, you can bring it out in color.
i personaly think wavery is very nice not to curly though, just at the edges (i am a guy so i don’t know the names of these styles just descriptions)
dogo
You didn’t have to say you’re a guy. The way you described it gave it away 🙂
I don’t think I have ever heard a guy say something against curly hair.
What makes women think guys have any bias against it?
i think its the girls themselves who have a bias to their hair and think men like it straight. personally i like curly hair but my hair is that frizzy mess in between straight and curly so i do iron it. but many of my friends have curly hair, and leave it curly with mousse and gel. girls! if you have curly hair, leave it curly! its part of your personality!
Wondering if curly hair is nice to impress a boy on a
Shidduch date????? This is why there are so many single boys and girls out there who are not married. A girls hair gets covered once she’s married…who cares!! especially when the curly hair ends up being covered after marriage…and gets so matted from being covered…that it now looks STRAIGHT. Chevra, get your priorities straight. I hope people focus on the right things when they are entering Shidduchim and not superficialities.
dunno,
You said
MDG
Now I’m confused. Are you a guy or a girl?
Why are you confused? because I can suggest a color?
I’m just trying to help you look conservative, while not wearing black. In interview books, they suggest conservative colors for mens suits such as dark blue and dark gray. I was passing along such information.
True hair shouldn’t be that important but you are dating a girl and the way she looks now does effect the decision (kinda hard to decide to marry a girl for the way she will be/look)
MDG
Kinda different but glad you’re applying your knowledge!
yossi z. most curly haired girls look forward to getting a straight shaitel when they are married. So, if dating a girl with curly hair is holding anyone back… just know she will probably wear a straight shaitel after marriage and now you can have your straight hair wife. pathetic!
I have pretty straigh/wavy hair B”H but for dates I usually wave it towards the bottom for a pretty look (and leave the top and my side bangs straight).
As for the black clothes I love black! But if u would look in my closet u would see COLORS! white skirts, gray skirts, pink skirts, I wear all color all the time but I love black too. U just have to know how to dress and have a nice style 🙂
I want to suggest another angle to the “everyone’s wearing black” issue.
Some of the comments insinuated (or said so outright) that when everyone wears black you lose your identity, noone can “notice” how special you look, and different variations of this idea.
I ask, Isn’t one of the points in tznius that a woman/girl should not “stand out” in public? It’s not only the idea of tempting other men, [Don’t even start with the “who asked them to look” stupidity!!!~ because everyone with sense knows that that’s a rediculous argument, both halachiclaly and naturaly), but it’s a part of the midah of tznious itself that a woman should not want to stand out among others.
Before the “everyone wears black” style came around, women/girls had an issue with deciding how much is called standing out too much and how much is just called dressed stylishly for a wedding. There were many discussions and nisyonos in this field, and many different “opinions” as the women/girls dealt with the question of tznious vs. “with it” vs. “nebby” or farfrumt etc.
Now lets look at the bright side (yes,believe it or not, all black can have a “bright” side too)now that the style/trend has decided that even everyone wearing black is stylish and with it and trendy, maybe it’s a favor from Hashem to help us have less of an “identity issue” and less of a nisayon , WHY SHOULD WE FIGHT IT?? You can finally look with-it and stylish and not have to deal with the problem of standing out too much in public.
I’m not saying that this solves the whole tznious problem, because “wearing what everyone else wears” just because that’s what’s “in” has its own questions in the tznious picture, but in response to the question of not standing out I think that Hashem might have made things a little easier for his dear children here.
~Just something to think about~
cant stereotype but i think i can say that most guys like straight hair.
i actually wear blue eyeliner to mix things up a little, black does get boring after a while.
@chayav inish…i dont wear black all the time, but when i do its usually for convenience…because all black can always work(work, shabbos, fun, etc) and it always matches :))
Also most people just look better in black-especially if they have a lighter coloring. Light colors would make them look to pale and washed out.
cshapiro
I agree. I think most men prefer long straight hair. If you want to play it safe definitely go w the straight hair.
one of the chevra
I’m new @ the coffee room do i dont know what your deal is, but I’ve heard ppl say that b4 and they WEREN’T kidding…
If Hashem wanted to, He could of just made it a halacha that women can only wear black.
It’s an constant challenge for women to look good within the boundaries of tznius.
MYTAKE responded to my comment: “If Hashem wanted to, He could of just made it a halacha that women can only wear black”.
It seems you missed my point! If there would be a halacha that all women must wear only black many women would have a problem with it, because it’s a halacha and it brings with it a yezer hara of difficulty. Instead, Hashem did us the favor to make it the style that everyone should wear black so that most people should be comfortable doing so. Maybe it’s part of His way of making it easier for us to do what’s right.
Tell yourself “I’m a trend-setter!”
Trust me,people have had hairstyles carry their name long after them BECAUSE they were different.
Example:Dorothy Hamil,Lady Di,Farrah Fawcett,etc.
I like curly hair.
I like straight hair too.
It’s really just a matter of the overall look and the way the personality of the girl blends with the look she is trying to pull off.
The main thing for me is that a girl should take what she has and accentuate it to look the best she can without affecting her natural look. Unless it’s something you might call a ‘blemish’ don’t cover it up or try to change it, just bring out the best in the way you were created.
Maybe other guys have different preferences. I never said I was typical.
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