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allsgr8 – “huh? Does drinking coffee make one old?”
Dunno, but I was eliminating myself from Cofeefan.
is anyone else annoyed at this post: “I am married to a diabetic. If I knew what I know now before, I got married, I think things would be different. I would be absolutely terrified to marry a Diabetic. Diabetes is a horrible disease. My spouse has every single problem that can come from diabetes. You name, they have it. Heart problems, Diabetic ulcers, amputations, eye problems, Kidney problems…circulation problems, infertilty issues.
I am suffering big time, along with them. My spouse, probably had it since they were younger, because the damage was from years and years of being undiagonised. They watch themselves now, but too little to late. The damage is done and irreparable.”
i feel like i’m the only one! i dont care what type of diabetes she’s talking about..she didnt specify and its horrible…
Rebbitzen- I’m with you 100% on this one ..people just post without thinking of the ramifications of their words. Its too late now, one can never take back words…Just think of it as a lesson for life that words are not retractable and remember that if hashem wants someone to hear something they will hear or read it somehow but if not they will never read it even if they read every topic in the coffee room! Her post will not reach the wrong eyes dont worry! Hashem protects us!!!! Be strong!
reading through this thread gives me new appreciation for what my body takes care of naturally without a second thought, and also a great amount of respect and awe of what you guys go through every day… i know about all about diabetes because of nursing school, but it’s a clinical way of looking at it. here i see the human side to it and what you go through every day. i have to say you guys are amazing and i get a lot of chizuk seeing what you go through and how you all deal with it!
The.nurse: you’re back!!!! Good point.
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the.nurse- I am also in the health field and I see the way science and professors look at diabetes and you absolutely cannot compare textbooks to the “real stuff” I am glad u understand that 🙂 It helps to know that there are people out there like you!
yea, yossi, i’m here, but lately just lurking 🙂
just had a patient the other day who has type I, her sugar dropped pretty low so we gave her an IV drip of D5W (sort of like sugar-water).. a 21 y.o. kid and i was thinking she has to go through this sort of stuff all the time..
rebbitzen- that post bothers me soooo much! just ignore it!!! but it is very upsetting!
nusre- thank you for ur kind words! it’s nice to see someone who understands what we go through from the medical perspective but also appreciates the hardships of it too! really means a lot to me! you seem to be a caring person which i’m sure makes you a fabbulous nurse! i wish everyone out there was like you
Cofeefan: I know it was all a joke but I think you should take a look at my post on the “what are you looking for” thread (yes it is on the last/second to last page and yes I posted it before our conversation was even thought of)
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It’s type 2 diabetes. everyone and sorry to disturb you. If this is a diabetes support group, then you should all be aware of the effects Diabetes can have on ones health. I came looking for support and I get knocked down by you. I feel sorry for you because you are all insenstive to an ill person and what they are going through. I hope that Hashem lets you read this so you can open your eyes what you wrote yourself. Your take on diabetes is being shown through rose colored glasses and everything is fine and dandy, but there IS a very real and terrible side to having Diabetes and living with someone going through it, doesn’t make life easier. No, I don’t regret what I wrote. I wrote from the heart and watching the terrible things my spouse is going through is absolutely heartbreaking. The constant hospitalizations take their toll. ALL that they are going through is because of Diabetes. It is the truth. At all the doctors visits that we go to, we are told constantly that all the illnesses and problems are caused from the diabetes.
You have no right to judge me unless you are going though the same thing with your spouse. I pray that you or any one that you love, will never have to go through it.
Nurse – No D50 bolus?
mazal- i’m sorry you thought we were judging thats totally not what i was meaning to do. i meant it as i am annoyed by trying to explain the 2 types (again) i hope you forgive me. i must have misunderstood what you were trying to say and thats terrible of me i hope you will join our discussions and find chizuk from what we say. but type 1 which is what we all have is very very different from type 2 so we dont have experience with that. truth is type 1 is easier in a way because we can eat anything and just give insulin as apposed to type 2 which requires strict diet exercise etc (as im sure you know and can prob give us all a lesson on that!) type 1 has all the same complications and i think i should thank you for warning us about them. bh i am in good control but now i will keep what you said in mind for future.
again- i am VERY sorry if my comments offended you and i hope you will join our discussions and gain wtvr you can
and yossi i dod read it and admire you for being so open minded. its a very important quality that most people don’t have,;)
mazal, no one is judging you! we’re just a bit taken aback because WE ACTUALLY HAVE DIABETES. it would just have been a lot clearer to the outside world had you specified you were talking about type 2 diabetes. That’s not what we have, and we don’t want people to start associating the complications your husband is having with our diabetes.
Mazal, that’s where the problem starts why some like to keep it a secret. people tell only of the type 2’s that got blind, had heart failure, had to take down a finger etc.and everything comes from that scary word : DIABETES, right? and this gives us, type 1’s automaically a bad name!(by shiduchim, car license, work, etc.)
That’s why I’m very thankfull for rav meisels, that he talks so openly about it, and shows the world, that type 1 and 2 are completely different things (he says, he doesn’t even know why it has the same name…;-))and shows the world that we can live a ‘normal’ life!
you see i think everyone is forgetting why yeshiva world started this forum, not to say how horrible diabetes is and how “if i would have known then…” thats really not nice and not our choice that we got diabetes. we are here to give each other chizuk, support and advice, not to complain about what we would have done if we would have known. and also mazel i dont think its nice to tell everybody about all the many problems that you had to go through when really its your husband that had to suffer and what can we do about it? are we hashem-the one you should really cry to? i mean how do you think someone who reads your post feels? wow i ahve diabetes and no one is ever gonna marry me because so many bad things happen( at least thats what people are gonna think when they see your post). that is ridiculous, i guess you forgot who is in charge. do you know how many people get married, all is fine even have some children and then either get cancer, diabetes, tumors. very sick children who are autistic or downs or worse and more. i am a nurse and see this all the time so really anything can happen and we have to stay strong and daven to hashem. so please try to write positive things because we certainly can use them
health,
it wasn’t that low that she was going to crash or anything. it’s an acute care surgical center where patients are D/C’d the same day, and we didn’t want to D/C her without raising her BS level, because she was very nauseous and was not going to be eating for hours afterwards
Mazal- Yes! Having diabetes is very difficult but that does mean that we cant see our lives, health, etc in a positive light. Everyone has a different way of dealing with nisyonos- my way (and apparently most others on this forum) is to see the good in it, learn from it, become more sensitive to other people, and get closer to hashem. Now, this does not mean that we dont know of the complications that can come along with diabetes chv’. It means that we choose to gain chizuk from eachother without worrying excessively about the future and dealing with the present.
I think you should read throught this entire forum especially the last 10 pages or so and you too will gain a lot of chizuk from reading it. I apologize if I came across against you strongly that was not my intention I was merely trying to assure rebbitzen and coffeefan that they shouldnt worry so much about what you wrote. (you shld just bear in mind that we are all in the shidduch scene and the last thing we want people to hear is that diabetes is horrible and we cant live normal lives. I hope you now understand why we feel so strongly about what you said.) Hatzlacha and I hope you and your husband share many happy and HEALTHY years together!
thanks everyone! i hope she understands…
For those of you here who jumped on the shidduchim bandwagon (thanks cofeefan for starting it lol), I started a thread on the topic of getting shidduchim started here within our own CR. Popa brought up a good point and I wanted to see what y’all (no I am not southern lol) have to say.
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yossi, i like your idea! get it started~!
Rebbitzen: it wasn’t my idea, cofeefan started it. There are a few problems with it (though sure it would be quite awesome if it was workable) and all I was doing was moving the conversation out of these threads as it looked like it was taking over the threads making them go completely off topic
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good luck on your doc appointment tomorrow allsgr8!!! dont worry everything will be great!!!! keep me posted on how it went!! ill be thinking of you!!
thanks cofeefan! I am SO nervous! I’ll let you know what happens iyh! hopefully good news!!!
Hatzlachah rabbah to all of you, kudos for keeping your chins (respective. I have no idea if any of you have more than one chin or not lol … Is that a joke I shouldn’t make?) up, and adar is the month(s) that the mazal of a yid is gover so everything will be all right. Come on, after all, this year we have two (ok one and a half at this point) months. 🙂
To extendedly discuss any points (besides diabetes) about this post please copy and paste and move the discussion over to the appropriate threads
I am not being a goody two shoes here (shocked if anyone could be choshed such a thing about me. Not saying that I am an evil twin either … Lol) I am just trying to unfuncuzerate the conversations here (which now that I think about it, is probably the whole reason for keeping threads on topic)
Anyways, toodeloo I better get to sleep so I can work with both eyes open tomorrow
To end off on topic, keep strong it will only make you grow into a better person (this I know from nisyonos I went/go through myself)
Now please stick (must not make joke. Not funny. Serious matters are being discussed.) To the topic at hand
🙂 😀 =D
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hey yossi sorry but you are funny and its okay to tell jokes we know its coming from someone good. you are not mocking anyone so its fine. any way does anyone know a beer that is good , i can have for purim?
mosh3- i doubt any beer wld good for you alcohol is very not good for us but i dont thinkits HORRIBLE if you have ONE on purim evev a normal regular beer (maybe a lite one…)…. just dont go overboard…. thats what i would think idk if it’s true or not;)
yea well last year i had alot and even got drunk and my sugar was fine so i think im gonna do that again this year. i just wanted to know which one was better. amsel, heineken, or bud
if it worked last year then go for it and have fun!! just be careful! but its good to enjoy urself once in a while!
Mosh3: thanx but I had better warn you, now that I have the green light … =D
Remind me how does alchohol affect your sugar? Or is it that they use sugar to ferment things? And does alchohol make your sugar go up or down? (I don’t remember alchohol being any sort of problem for diabetics)
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He?!? did I hear good? go for it and have fun? Are you taking the responsebilty of him going into a coma because of the alcohol?!?
I would be afraid to say that…
Btw, did all of you see the discussion rav meisels had with a reporter? I think we all have to back him!He has a few strong points that the world has to hear!( I saw it in his yahoo group)
It’s about type1 and shidduchim, and that no good can come out of someone writing bad about us…, go and read it!
tralala- your right. i have no experience with alochol because i dont drink anything but water so i assumed if he said it was ok last year that it was ok this year. but your right i should not have said that for the reason that I DONT KNOW!! so mosh3 PLEASE ask a doctor before you do anything!!! i am NOT a doctor and I DO NOT know how it will affect ur health and i would say better safe than sorry!!! thanks tralala for bringing this to my attention!
allsgr8 how did it go?!
Cofeefan- Bh! It wasn’t as bad as i expected,..drum roll… it was 7.1. The doctor was like Great! under 7 is better but 7.1 is just fine..I guess i worried for nothing lol! The truth is that my last one was 6.9 and before that was 6.6 so Im gonna try very hard the next 3 months to bring it back down but im happy that she wasnt mad at me:) I also have this fear that iyh when I have to tell a boy about my D his parents will want to know my last A1c so I want it to be EXCELLENT not just very good!
Btw I logged in special to tell you how it went and I was touched when I saw that you asked! Thanks:)
Mosh3- I dont know much about beer but dry wines dont have a lot of sugar..maybe try that…Just curious, when you were drunk did you have a family member present to make sure you were okay? to remind you to check your sugars? My parents would be too scared to let me get drunk that’s for sure..but they dont have to worry cuz the most i can drink is girly bartenura 🙂
7.1 is GREAT!!! you should be so proud! especially when you were so nervous! i think low 7s is great!!! IyH with hard work it will be even better next time!! but for now celebrate your 7.1;)
Thanks 🙂 I need to get into an exercise regimen and then ill be really great!! any ideas? i cant seem to get myself to go walking!
Cofeefan, you never heard of alcohol dangerously lowering your bg?
and not reacting to glucagon? It has nothing to do with sweet or dry wine, it’s the alcohol!
Health, where are you? can you please help with the explanation?
allsgr8, gorgeous a1c!
and don’t be so afraid your mil will ask for it 😉
no tralala i never heard about alcohol cuz like i said i dont drink.. and i already apologized and said i was wrong so there is no need to have health explain please! just leave me out of this discussion from now on ok?
allsgr8- i know i need an exercise plan too!! i hate walking!!! but my doc said it will help bring it from the 6.6 even lower!! but i hate walking!!! do you have time to swim? what about an exercise class?
Tralala – Ah-someone actually calling my name. Unfortunately I have to post some very bad news I heard yesterday. There was a guy in shul who lost a teenager last year to alcohol on Purim. Alcohol is dangerous to everyone not just Diabetics. I propose that there has to be someone to watch every teenager that they don’t drink too much. You see I’m not like others who say noone can drink more than a cup of wine and that’s it. People, even teenagers can get drunk, but the adults who are responsible for this kid must make sure that there is a limit!
Someone should start a post (maybe I will, but I doubt it) about this! On Purim -we should all be happy, not sorry!
coffefan-I like to swim but firstly i only like outdoor pools 🙂 but the main issue is that swimming brings my sugar down REALLY low VERY FAST and it scares me….
I would love to do Zumba but I have noone to go with..wanna join me?
health- i agree with you 100% you are very right! thank you for posting this!
allsgr8- i would love to try zumba but i hate public classes i dont like exercising with a ton of people watching… so interesting that swimming affects u so quickly… it takes my levels like 2 hours to go down low after swimming! did u try drinking juice or something before? isnt it funny how the same thing can affect 2 people with the SAME disease in 2 DIFFERENT ways?
c’mon itll be so much fun- noone’s watching you cuz they’re busy worrying that everyone else is watching them :))))
I think it is interesting how we’re each affected so differently..I dont like to drink juice before cuz then i feel light headed until my numbers drop…
lol allsgr8 thats prob true!! my sis in law keeps trying to get me to join her once but i always say no lol! i would be so bad at it!
you feel light headed from juice?! thats so interesting!
lol k so i guess Ill havta find another friend to go with 🙁
I feel light head from being very high- If i drink a cup of juice ill be like 300 and it doesnt feel very good…
Sorry, coffee, didn’t mean you, i only replied to your post, moichl?;-)
no prob tralala jst felt like you were attacking me a bit… but dont worry no hard feelings 😉
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Hi i am the new guy on the block. just moved in now. however when it comes to D i have had it for 18 years. now thats a lot of experience. however my experience doesnt stop there i have two children with D. one got it at 12 months and the other at 5. we are all on pumps. In short i dream of numbers and carbs. Does anybody have a pediatric endocrinologist to rec.in the brooklyn area?
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