Do they teach girls how to cook in Seminary?

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    #700430
    blinky
    Participant

    Oh well maybe youll change your mind after you taste my aristocratic cooking. Good Shabbos!

    #700431
    Sacrilege
    Member

    “but apparently my taste buds are”

    Thats just because most “Traditional Jewish” food is really bland and boring. What you probably tasted had some spice and depth of flavor. Not what most people are used to.

    #700432

    Thats just because most “Traditional Jewish” food is really bland and boring.

    i dont think so

    cholent with onions and garlic

    chicken soup floating with schmaltz and a strong leek taste

    pickled or matjes herring

    gefilte fish with pungent horseradish

    moo goo gai pan

    #700433
    blinky
    Participant

    fried oily donuts

    crispt potatolatkes

    cheesecake

    fluffy soft kneidlach

    whats moo goo gai pan?

    #700434
    squeak
    Participant

    That’s a lot of cholesterol!

    Oh, and if you don’t speak Cantonese, you can just say stir fry.

    #700435
    Sacrilege
    Member

    “cholent with onions and garlic

    chicken soup floating with schmaltz and a strong leek taste

    pickled or matjes herring

    gefilte fish with pungent horseradish

    moo goo gai pan”

    I think I just threw up in my mouth.

    But yes all those wouldnt be tasteless if that was your point.

    #700436

    that was my point

    #700437
    mybat
    Member

    Mod 80,Hop on over, i just hope i dont dissapoint you!! 🙂

    #700438

    moo goo gai pan

    a traditional Jewish food often served in “chinese” restaurants

    #700439

    ill be right there!

    #700440
    Sacrilege
    Member

    blinky – Cheesecake and donuts arent a Jewish food.

    Matzoh Balls are bland unless you dump a load of spicy into them, bit traditionally they are floating balls of bland.

    #700441

    nothing wrong with cholesterol

    in fact a good proportion of the cell membranes, endoplastic reticulum, golgi apparatus, and lysozomes of all the billions of cells in ones body are composed to a large extent of cholesterol

    #700442
    squeak
    Participant

    If so, why the stir fry? You should switch it out for corned beef.

    #700443
    Sacrilege
    Member

    80 – “golgi apparatus”

    I didnt know you were a fan of Phish 😉

    #700444
    squeak
    Participant

    Moderator-80

    Mr. 80

    a traditional Jewish food often served in “chinese” restaurants

    This reminds me of a story that sheds some light on the mistake in your definition.

    A Chinese man was debating with a Jewish man whose culture was oldest. The Chinese man said, “We have tradition going back 3,000 years” and the Jewish man counters, “But ours goes back 4,000 years!”

    The Chinese man raises his eyebrow and says, “Oh, yes? What you people eat for the first 1,000 years?”

    🙂

    #700445

    If so, why the stir fry?

    “squeak”

    that was added only for the purposes of humor

    i prefer corned beef

    even better (and spicier) is pastrami

    #700446

    80 – “golgi apparatus”

    I didnt know you were a fan of Phish 😉

    you lost me sac

    #700447

    nevermind

    i googled phish golgi

    #700448
    squeak
    Participant

    I thought we were binging from now on?

    #700449
    Sacrilege
    Member

    squeak – thats a cute joke.

    #700450

    you apparently are the only Jew in america that hasnt heard it before

    #700451
    Sacrilege
    Member

    Probably…

    #700452
    squeak
    Participant

    And here I was thinking it was Mod80 who was the only one who hadn’t heard it… after all, it wasn’t Sacrilege who defined stir fry in that way

    #700453

    it was that very joke b’etzem that caused me to define it in that way

    #700454
    demo
    Member

    in my daughters seminary-now closed down-not only did they not learn how to cook-actually they didnt learn anything at all-but the school didnt even have a kitchen so the meals were ordered in from a restraunt every day. my daughter can make scrambled eggs,macaroni and cheese from a box and baked chicken with potatoes.when she gets married i have no problem paying the couples pomegrante bill.they make delicious food.home cooking is highly overated

    #700455
    WIY
    Member

    Demo

    Not everybody has that kind of money to burn or is that lazy.

    #700456
    so right
    Member

    demo, no way! you’re just testing us!

    #700457
    tzippi
    Member

    It would be nice if the high schools offered home ec. By the time a girl gets to sem she should have some exposure to the kitchen and that’s more than enough.

    Really, how much should she learn to cook? What if her husband has totally different tastes? Some exposure, familiarity with the kitchen, tools, etc. is more than enough.

    #700458
    blinky
    Participant

    tzippi- my high school offered home economics, i guess not every school does.

    #700459
    demo
    Member

    it has nothing to do with laziness.i love the kitchen some people dont. she could grow into baking and cooking or she might never develop a feel for it.im just saying in todays day its not the worst thing if a girl cant cook. can every boy fix his own car?of course not, thats why there are mechanics.

    #700460
    WIY
    Member

    Demo

    I think cooking is something that’s a daily requirement to feed ones family and makes more sense for a woman to know how to do than a man knowing how to fix a car which doesn’t need fixing that often. I need a mechanic 1-2x a year. Most of us eat 3x a day.

    #700461
    tomim tihye
    Member

    WIY-

    You may want to start a Hingarishe recipes thread so your wife will be ok despite her probable lack of formal training:)

    #700462
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Of course, it’s possible to learn to cook without any formal education in high school or seminary.

    I’ve been told my food is quite good* — and I didn’t even start learning to cook until well after I graduated high school.

    The Wolf

    * So much so that my kids consider it a big treat when I cook something. Personally, I think Eeees’ cooking is much better than mine, but she and the kids disagree.

    #700463
    WIY
    Member

    Tomim

    Lol. Not a bad idea.

    #700464
    oomis
    Participant

    Not a bad idea, IMO. Aish HaTorah, and Aish Hamitbach.

    #700465
    WIY
    Member

    Wolfish

    How did you get into cooking? I’m a guy and I don’t want to be an am haaretz in the kitchen I want to know how to make some good stuff besides grilling a good steak.

    #700466
    theprof1
    Participant

    While it’s true that the majority of girls attending seminary won’t become full time teachers , not life career teachers anyway, the reason for seminary existence is to give the girls an additional shot of immersion in Torah and yiddishkeit. These are the essentials of a yiddish family today, in the 21st century. We don not live in Europe. And in Europe before WW2 the gedolim foresaw the need for a bais yakov type of education. I said this earlier in this thread. The girls are the ikeres habayis. They are the ones who will be showing their children how to grow up as Torah true yidden. The little boys and girls don’t see their fathers davening. They do see the mother davening at home. The mother helps them with their yiddish homework. What’s the use of a fantastic cheesecake with zebra effects on it if the wife/mother has no appreciation for learning developed by her high school and seminary studies? Yes to some extent seminary is the 13th grade of high school. But it’s the capstone to their learning. It’s the foundation stone to their Torah and yiddishkeit life.

    #700467
    Sacrilege
    Member

    WIY

    “I want to know how to make some good stuff besides grilling a good steak.”

    Believe me a perfectly grilled steak is a hard thing to come by. Not a bad thing to have in your repertoire.

    #700468
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    How did you get into cooking? I’m a guy and I don’t want to be an am haaretz in the kitchen I want to know how to make some good stuff besides grilling a good steak.

    Practice. Start with some recipes from cookbooks. Once you’re comfortable with those, begin making some changes to them and experimenting.

    You won’t be a master chef overnight (I’m not anywhere close to it even now), but in time, you’ll learn to prepare a meal. As it stands now, I can prepare an entire Shabbos meal* by myself, if necessary.

    The Wolf

    P.S. — for the record, I don’t know how to grill a steak on a barbecue. 🙂

    * Well, except for the challah. While Eeees will allow me to cook for Shabbos, she jealously guards her challah-making privilege. 🙂 But I’m not complaining — she makes the BEST challah in the world — and she bakes it every week (except Pesach, of course).

    #700469

    back to the original topic about sems teaching how to cook…

    “I would rather my daughters have a strong foundation of Torah knowledge than know how to bake a cheesecake. “

    SJS – i think that’s the first time i actually agree with you.

    you can learn how to cook and clean “on the job” if you didn’t learn that at home. But strengthening and attaining strong hashkafos FOR LIFE. (that can literally change the course you chose to take in life) that’s not something that happens every day. And if your mother is one of those who doesn’t let her kids into the kitchen, try cooking by a married sibling/aunt. and don’t worry, many women who are great cooks today started out not knowing how to do ANYTHING!

    #700470
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Wolf does she share the recipe?

    #700471
    theprof1
    Participant

    My wife attended two seminaries, Bais Yakov in Montreal one year and then Esther Schonfeld in NY a second year. Result? Could quote the Ramban any day but had no idea how to cook water for coffee, literally couldn’t. Within 3 years she was an outstanding cook by reading cookbooks. Result? Was able to learn with our children and eduacte them the 1st years of their lives; and she can bake a better cheesecake than any Satmar girl steeped in Home Economics with no idea why we take arba minim on succos.

    #700472
    WolfishMusings
    Participant

    Wolf does she share the recipe?

    I can probably get it from her.

    The Wolf

    #700473
    SJSinNYC
    Member

    Sof Davar, welcome to the dark side 🙂

    #700474
    says who
    Member

    I agree that there is no need to teach how to cook in seminary, you can teach yourself after marrige. The point is something else, that many women are resentful for having so much time wasted on housework, they’ed rather learn more Ramban. That is a problem.

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