October 17, 2013 2:03 am at 2:03 am #996405
superme: I don’t know where it comes from but I do know it can’t be from AZ because they don’t exist. The same way lightning doesn’t come from Thor because he doesn’t existOctober 17, 2013 2:33 am at 2:33 am #996406
Chcham is basically just saying over the Rambam. If she believes it’s Avodah Zarah, though, that’s still bad.October 17, 2013 4:25 am at 4:25 am #996407
There are kochos hatumah in the world and there are people that know how to tap into them.October 31, 2013 3:59 pm at 3:59 pm #996408
Since I see that no one is answering you question directly, let me jump in and try to help and inject some common sense as well.
To answer your question specifically about Leah Weiss, She bills herself not only as an energy healer, but also as a therapist and a mental health counselor. However, she has no qualifications for that, she is not licensed, and to the best of my knowledge, she has no training that would allow her act in that capacity. But rather than talking about one person in particular, let me make the following few points that should help you and others make an informed decision.
Energy healing / alternative medicine: The fact is, recent reviews have concluded that there is no evidence supporting clinical efficacy. The theoretical basis of healing has been criticized, research and reviews supportive of energy medicine have been criticized for containing methodological flaws and selection bias and positive therapeutic results have been dismissed as the result of known psychological mechanisms. Natural creams that did work wonders have been found to be a fraud! With dangerous steroids as the key ingredient!October 31, 2013 10:51 pm at 10:51 pm #996409
Welcome to the cr!
+100000000December 22, 2013 8:48 pm at 8:48 pm #996410
101commensense- what about acupuntureDecember 22, 2013 9:06 pm at 9:06 pm #996411
She is doing the world a chessed by getting the money away from the retards.December 22, 2013 11:28 pm at 11:28 pm #996413
We can always count on Popa to find the silver lining in every cloud!December 22, 2013 11:59 pm at 11:59 pm #996414
People who don’t believe in alternative therapies are narrow minded at the least and ignorant at the worst. Many dismiss anything that is not orthodox medicine without even giving it even a cursory reading which is true stupidity. Energy healing is not witchcraft or even anything complicated, it is simply transferring some of ones own life force to someone else. To say it doesn’t work is truly stupid, it is simply logical. Any alternative therapy can be proven with a baby or animal. No alternative therapy that has existed for decades can be dismissed, there must be something in it otherwise it would not have stood the test of time.December 23, 2013 12:48 am at 12:48 am #996415
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simply transferring some of ones own life force to someone else
Oh, and here I thought it was more complicated than that.
No alternative therapy that has existed for decades can be dismissed, there must be something in it otherwise it would not have stood the test of time.
By that same “logic”, no criticism of alternative therapy that has existed for decades can be dismissed, there must be something in it otherwise it would not have stood the test of time.December 23, 2013 4:50 pm at 4:50 pm #996416
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Torah4Me- If what you are saying would be true, all energy healers would be dead.December 23, 2013 5:27 pm at 5:27 pm #996417
Torah4me’s comment is a good example of poe’s lawDecember 23, 2013 6:28 pm at 6:28 pm #996418
PBA: I guess you could say this also is, but I actually think it’s the reverse of Poe’s Law. (Poe’s Law is that a troll looks real; the reverse is that a sincere post can look like a troll if the opinion is extreme enough.)December 23, 2013 10:24 pm at 10:24 pm #996419
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Sam, I’m impressed by your Bekius. 🙂December 23, 2013 11:34 pm at 11:34 pm #996420
DY: In a previous life I was a troll-slayer as well.December 25, 2013 8:00 am at 8:00 am #996421
“Simply transferring some of ones own life-force to someone else”
What if she transfers the dark side of the force?
How many Eldunari does she have? How about Horcruxes?December 31, 2013 3:37 am at 3:37 am #996422
YW Moderator-42: Lol always have something to say 🙂
Torah4Me: sorry lost you somewhere, im confusedDecember 14, 2017 8:06 pm at 8:06 pm #1427851
Harav belskys son has an english Sefer on this topic. He claims to have done extensive research and concludes that all of this originates and is based on avoda zarah.December 14, 2017 10:04 pm at 10:04 pm #1427878
What the name of the saferDecember 14, 2017 10:05 pm at 10:05 pm #1427879
A recently published sefer, Alternative Medicine in Halacha, by Rephoel Szmerla, concludes that such things as energy healing (and various other alternative therapies as well) are kosher.December 14, 2017 11:15 pm at 11:15 pm #1427885
Someone mentioned R. Rephoel Szmerla four years ago on this thread; on the first page.December 15, 2017 8:14 am at 8:14 am #1427923
A recent Mishpacha magazine had their cover page article about this issue. Perhaps you can find a friend who has the back issue. If I can find mine, I will bli neder look at the article and see if I can summarize it, but it won’t be until after Shabbos.December 15, 2017 9:23 am at 9:23 am #1427947
Mishpacha wrote a feature article positively covering the book, and then issued a retraction of sorts, after receiving many critical comments from rabbis about the field.
Apparently, some rabbis, like R’ Szmerla, argue that nearly all alternative medicine and associated practices like energy healing are permitted, while some, like R’ Belsky, forbid many of them, particularly things like energy healing.
I would stay far away from reiki and energy healing and such, but traditional forms of medicine like Chinese medicine (which involves not just acupuncture, but also herbs, exercises like tai chi or qigong, and other practices like massage) would seem to be unproblematic, and in practice, are openly used by well-known rabbis.December 15, 2017 11:22 am at 11:22 am #1428029
Why o why does this have to be so complicated.
1. Evidence based medicine requires…
wait for it…EVIDENCE!
2. There are currently 2 biasis in evidence based medicine
A. The scientism bias (segula based methods disregarded)
B. The profit bias (methods that cannot be monitized disregarded)
3. There will always be people willing to believe in things for which there is no evidence. They are not “retards”. In fact, in one of Rabbi Kelleman’s excellent shiurim he points out that all the members of the heavens gate cult where educated, well adjusted people with no history of mental illness.
So you have 2 choices:
1) you can go with evidence based medicine warts and all.
2) you can believe in leprechauns
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