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    Im not really sure of all the details-but i know that the week of Parshas Beshalach there’s a segula to say Parshas Haman for Parnasa–i dont really know why, but im sure there are plenty of people that can tell us why(and maybe ywn can post it on tuesday)

    http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/pdf/ParshasHamon.pdf

    #1055724
    amichai
    Participant

    i’m sure ywn. will post the tefilla. you can also go into tefillos.com.

    #1055725
    teen
    Member

    how long is it?

    #1055727
    teen
    Member

    onlyemes: who are to say segulos dont work…are you god?

    #1055728
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    Segulos don’t work.

    Getting a paying job does.

    Ironic screenname for such a comment.

    Which parts of davening should we omit?

    ??????? ???????? ?’ ?????-???? ??? ????????? ?????? – Lets omit this, since G-d has no hand in our Parnassa R”L

    ??????? ??? ??????. ??????????? ????? ??? ?????: – I work, I earn, G-d can only get in the way R”L

    ???? ???? ??-? ??? ??????????? ????? ???????? ????? ???????? ?????? ????? ????????????? ?????? ?????? – Except for me! R”L

    ???????? ??????????. ????????? ??????????? ????????????

    Any other parts of davening which are not in line with your religious beliefs?

    #1055729
    amichai
    Participant

    you start from parshas shemos:chapter 16.posuk 4. vayomer hashem el moshe hinneni mamtir. and you say until shviyi.

    #1055730
    teen
    Member

    jaymatt19: thank you i like your argument better

    #1055731
    amichai
    Participant

    onlyemes, look around you. how many people lost their jobs this year, how many people lost their SAVINGS this year?? nothing can be taken for granted. hashem runs the world ,and nebach it can be taken away in seconds. we aren’t putting our trust in the segula, but it’s a tefilla. wishing all of the klal that we should be able to provide for our families. this week is shabbos shira, we say oz yashir. what a beautiful parsha. i usually have tears in my eyes when we read it in shul.

    #1055732
    squeak
    Participant

    Segulos do work. Getting a paying job is hishtadlus.

    P.S. Don’t forget to stamp your feet while saying parshas haman (-:

    #1055733
    YW Moderator-72
    Participant
    #1055734
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    MOD, that is the tfilas HaShlah, NOT PARSHAS HAMAN! PLEASE FIX!!

    thank you. Here it is.

    Although it can’t hurt to say the Shlah’s Tefillah either, I assume.

    YW Moderator-25

    #1055735
    d a
    Member

    A Prayer for Parnassah recited by many especially on the Tuesday of Parshas Beshalach.

    FROM ARTSCROLL.COM

    When our ancestors were in the Wilderness, a month after the Exodus from Egypt, they faced a tomorrow with no food. Justifiably, they asked Moshe if he had taken them into the desert to starve to death. Hashem responded that in the morning they would see that He had not forsaken them.

    The Torah reading of this coming Shabbos — Parashas Beshalach — includes the chapter telling how the Jewish People in the Wilderness received manna. Many people recite the chapter daily, as a special prayer for parnassah. There is also a widespread custom to recite this chapter on the Tuesday of the week of Beshalach, which this year is February 3rd.

    As a public service, we offer the text and interlinear translation of the chapter, from the Schottenstein Edition Interlinear Siddur. Please feel free to download it.

    Click on this link to download: The Chapter of Manna.pdf (PDF: 206K) (I hope it works! if not: http://www.artscroll.com/itehillim.html#parnassah HATZLACHA!)

    #1055737
    onlyemes
    Member

    To all my critics, who are well-intentioned but painfully ignorant:

    The tefilah for parnassah is found in almost every siddur. It is mentioned in the Yerushalmi Brachos, and is brought down by the Mishnah Brurah, OH 1, note 13. It is to be said EVERY DAY. This tefilah, as all others, has a dual intention. One, to ask for something from God, as we do in Shmoneh Esrai. Two is to acknowledge that all things come from God. He will decide whether to answer our prayers or not.

    A segulah is not a prayer. It is not a tefilah. To call the tefilah for parnassah a segulah is misleading. Saying it today is no different than saying it yesterday or tomorrow. It may be nice to say it today if you need it, but then say it every day.

    #1055738
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    onlyemes: >>To all my critics, who are well-intentioned but painfully ignorant:…Segulos do not work. Try praying to G-d instead. <<

    Without discussing the merits of this statement (which would actually be a wonderful discussion, deserving of its own topic),

    Why didn’t you say this in your original post??

    Originally you said >>Segulos don’t work. Getting a paying job does. <<

    #1055739
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    >> To call the tefilah for parnassah a segulah is misleading. Saying it today is no different than saying it yesterday or tomorrow. It may be nice to say it today if you need it, but then say it every day.<<

    There is such a thing as an Eis Ratzon. A time where certain types of tefillos are more powerful. There is a beautiful tfilla from the Shlah HaKaddosh about raising children. It can be said whenever you wish, but there is a speciall Inyan to say it Yom Kippur Katan for Sivan.

    >>Many “segulos” come from pagan and other non-Jewish sources, and they are worthless at best.<<

    No argument here, but why passul the real segulas because of this? We see in Parshas VaYetzei that the Dudaim had the power to assist in becoming pregnant, so much so that Leah and Rochel fought over them! (And have a look at the Rabeinu Bechaye who says that It is rubies, and it still works for someone who has fertility issues or trouble giving birth). Is it automatic? hardy. Can it work without tfillos? doubt it.

    But all sgulos are worthless? There are Mishnayos, Gmorros, Rishonim and others who humbly disagree with your opinion

    #1055740
    YW Moderator-72
    Participant

    whoops… sorry everyone. I wasn’t feeling well yesterday. I saw parnasa in the link name and just added the link. thanks 25 for adding thr right link.

    #1055741
    Itzik_s
    Member

    BS”D

    And how may I ask could the Parshas HaMan, said on yom shlishi where it is twice ki tov, during the week in which Parshas Beshalach from whence it comes is recited, have any sort of origin that is remotely not Jewish????????????????????????

    #1055742
    qwertyuiop
    Member

    mod72: i hope you’re feeling better today, if not refuah sheleimah.$

    #1055743
    kapusta
    Participant

    onlyemes dont be so quick to disprove segulos, I’m not giving a blanket statement that it will always work or always not work, but sometimes it may halp to question if you did anything to help you get the job

    #1055744
    nossond
    Member

    If someone already made this joke forgive me. If not here goes.

    I thought parshas Haman is said on Purim!

    #1055745
    qwertyuiop
    Member

    nossond: squeak said:

    P.S. Don’t forget to stamp your feet while saying parshas haman (-:

    #1055746
    Joseph
    Participant

    Nosson: Very good 🙂

    #1055747
    Jothar
    Member

    We have to differentiate between the segulos.

    There are the segulos based on real sources, and there are the modern segulos that look suspiciously like darchei emori.

    The Torah clearly says talmud Torah kenegged kulam.Any segula based on actual learning can’t be bad. Torah is the biggest mitzvah. the biggest lesson of Parshas Haman is found in Rashi Ledoroseichem at the end- Hashem provides our needs. Working is hishtadlus. This is the lesson of Parshas HaMann. On Shabbos, we have lechem mishna to remind us of the Mann. On the day we don’t work, we remind ourselves that we can take off on Shabbos because Hashem provides.

    The question is on the segulos that are of recent vintage and don’t seem to be tied into Hashem.

    The best segula is always Davening and learning. I am dismayed at the glossy publications promising that if you give money to their organization then you are guaranteed yeshuos. there was an article about this in the yated of 2 weeks ago.

    #1055748
    Jothar
    Member

    I saw this on another website:

    Reb Mendele M’Riminov said that saying Parshas HaMan (Shnayim Mikra V’Echod Targum) on Tuesday Parshas Bishalach, is a Segula for Parnassa. Emails are flying from concerned friend to friend reminding them not to miss the big opportunity with links to places where they can find all that they need online. In fact the Shulchan Aruch says in the first Siman of Orach Chaim that you should say it every day (along Parshas Akeida, Aseres HaDibros, Olah, Mincha, Chatos, Shlamim, Asham, Kiyor, Trumas HaDeshen, Tamid and of course Tikun Chatzos). The Mishna Brura quotes the Yerushalmi that guarantees to anyone who says it every day that he will never lack sustenance.

    A new Rav after attending the first board meeting of his less than fervently religious new Shul commented that he thinks they should add the Aseres HaDibros to the Shul’s by-laws, this way everyone would strictly adhere to them. The same can probably be said about our keen interest and adherence to Segulos. Rav Shimshon Pincus among many others once said that the greatest segula for health is to say Asher Yatzar with kavana. Parnassa? Bareich Aleinu of course. You are standing before the Big Boss himself, when will you find a better time to ask for a raise to keep up with your growing families cost of living or a little bonus to cover the tuition or simcha expenses that you are being hounded for?

    Not to chas v’shalom belittle the segula of Parshas HaMan or Rav Mendele of Riminov, of course there is great power in saying Parshas HaMan if you read it carefully and don’t just say it at top speed while dreaming about what you will do with the winnings of the upcoming lottery jackpot.

    Lesson # 1 No snacks or extras – Hashem sends us everything we need. “Bein HaArbayim Tochlu Basar U’Baboker Tisbi’u Lechem” Bishalach (16:12). Two solid meals a day, meat in the evening and bread in the morning. There was no tea room and small snacks were not provided to keep us going in between. Food and money in general are not given to us to satisfy our constant earthly cravings. They are tools we need for Avodas Hashem, to be used as needed only. Neither the Yerushalmi or Rav Mendele are going to promise you all the things we’ve come to enjoy that we don’t need. As the end of the Pasuk says “ViDatem Ki Ani Hashem”. The budget is given to help you stay in good physical condition to enable you to know that there is Hashem. Two many extras and the brain gets a little foggy, which would defeat the whole purpose.

    Lesson # 2 The 100/0 Rule – “VaYamodu BaOmer V’Lo Hedif HaMarbeh V’HaMamit Lo Hechsir” (12:18) How much money you get has absolutely nothing to do with your efforts or your intelligence. Not 50%, not 5%, and not even .01%. 100% Siyata Dishmaya.

    Lesson # 3 No savings plan – “Ish Al Yoser MiMenu Ad Boker” (12:19). In the 40 years in the midbar there was no bank collapse or stock market crash. No one had any money put away for a rainy day. By time everyone went to sleep in the midbar all the cupboards were empty and there wasn’t a crumb to be had. I am sure they all slept better than we do with our “savings” protected in the bank, stock market, real estate, or pension fund. We worry what we will eat tomorrow even though we have plenty. They didn’t although they had nothing. It would seem silly to say Parshas HaMan with the intention of adding to your coffers. Here again I am not sure the Yerushalmi or Rav Mendele can help you. Maybe a good solution for those of you who have too much cash floating around that you not ready to part with is to put it in a G’mach.

    If you go through the pasukim yourself with honest eyes and an open mind you will no doubt be inspired to discover countless other lessons regarding the proper attitude towards parnassa. It is important to also remember the first words of the parsha (16:4), “L’Ma’an Anasenu HaYeilech B’Soirasi Im Lo”, the test of earning a living is all about proving that you are a loyal Yid going in the way of Hashem’s Torah. Do you obtain it honestly. Do you earn money to keep the Torah, or is the art of earning money the torah you worship?

    Indeed these are lofty goals and far from where many of us are today. But surely, as the Yerushalmi or Rav Mendele say, it is worth saying Parshas HaMan, today on this revered day, and everyday. The repetition will certainly have an effect on us and it may start to seep in. The closer we get to this goal the richer we will indeed be. Your life will be enriched and it will be a life worth living. And as promised, Hashem will always give you all that you really need. You will feel great and look great, free of any worry. Remember Hashem calls us His “Am Segula” for a reason, and its not because we say Parshas HaMan on Super Tuesday with one eye on the chumash and the other eye on the stock market.

    #1055749
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator
    #1055750
    JayMatt19
    Participant

    BUMP!

    #1055751
    Yenta
    Participant

    The new segula of blowing 1000 shofars at some kever (recent ad campaign), is way more exciting. http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/coffeeroom/topic/yated-insert-regarding-1000-shofar-ritual

    So many newer and exciting segulos around, and even newer ones still to be found.

    Sooooo un-Jewish.

    #1055752
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I always wondered what Haman had to do with having a parnassah. And why it wouldn’t make more sense to say it on purim.

    But hey, if it works…

    #1055753
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I also want to mention that this is not a segulah like the witchcraft that people sometimes do.

    The purpose of this is quite clear: to remind you that Hashem provides for us, and that we need to turn to Him for our parnassah–the same way we turned to Him and He provided for us in the midbar.

    So I said it. And posted about it on here.

    #1055754
    WIY
    Member

    Is there a chiyuv of Hishtadlus to say it if you can?

    #1055755
    Dr Uri Bakay
    Member

    Parshas Haman only works till 9 am then you have to go to work, so said a great Rebbe

    #1055756
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    Haman was extremely rich. Look where that got him…

    #1055758
    BaalHabooze
    Participant

    show of hands….how many of you bought lottery tickets yesterday after you recited parshas Hamon?

    😉

    #1055759
    tzaddiq
    Member

    i bought a local raffle ticket from a student. i’ll let u know if i win

    #1055760
    Ken Zayn
    Member

    One guy says parshas haman without a siddur because he wants his income to be off the books…

    #1055761
    FriendInFlatbush
    Participant

    BUMP….

    Today is the day for parshas haman! Tuesday of Parshas Beshalach.

    #1055762
    apushatayid
    Participant

    every day is “the day” for parshas haman.

    #1055763
    Joseph
    Participant

    apy: Today is no more or less than any other day, per your contention?

    #1055764
    apushatayid
    Participant

    im not contending (if that is a word).

    #1055765
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    I said it again this year.

    #1055766

    Why davka today?

    #1055767
    apushatayid
    Participant

    I guess if one cant say it every day as brought down by the levush in the name of the yerushalmiush, then saying it one day a year is certainly better than nothing. I have no idea what daavka this day. I try to say it every day.

    #1055768

    Earlier in the thread, someone suggested the reason is because Yom Shlishi had double ki tov.

    My question was directed at popa, who seems to eschew mystical reasons (see his post from two years ago).

    #1055769
    Joseph
    Participant

    apy: So if one doesn’t say it everyday, in your venerable opinion it makes no difference if the one day it is said is today versus on August 27th?

    #1055770
    Sam2
    Participant

    Lior: Yes, the M”B says to say the Parshas HaMan everyday in order to recognize that all Parnassah is from Hashem.

    #1055771

    First off, it’s been two years, but Ken Zayn – I liked the joke.

    To pontificate, Shulchan Aruch HaRav says at the end of the first siman of Shulchan Aruch (HaRav)

    [Note – I split up a little for bolding purposes, hard to quote Hebrew text]

    ?) ??? ???? ??? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ????

    ????? ??? ????? ??’ ???? ??? ??? ??? ?????

    ????? ?????? ???? ?? ?? ??? ??? ???? ???? ??????? ??? ???? ?????? ????? ????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ???? ????? ????? ????? ???? ?? ?????? ????? ??????? ????? ?”? ?????? ???? ?????? ???? ????? ????? ?? ???? ??? ????? ????? ????? ?????? ???’ ?? ????? ????? ???? ??’

    ???? ???? ?? ??? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ??? ???? ????? ???? ??????? ??? ??? ??? ??????

    ??? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ????? ?? ???? ????? ????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ????? (??”? ?????? ?”?) ??? ???? ??????? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?? ????? ???? ??? ?? ?? ????? ??? ??? ???? ????? ?????? ??????? ?????? ???? ???? ????? ??? ??????? ?? ??????? ???? ??????? ???? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ????? ??? ??? ???? ???? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ????? ???? ???? ????? ??? ????? ??? ???????? ???? ???? ????? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???? ???? ???? ???? ??? ?????:

    It’s explicit that one who is learning otherwise should just say the parshas mentioned (like Hamon, akeidah, korbanos etc.) at “perakim” [ie one in a while]. Not explicit is that if one will not be able to concentrate nor have the time to say all the parshios everyday, it is still worthwhile to say once in a while. For example, a lot of people say the Parshas Akeidah on Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. It’d seem that during the day the olam reads the Parshas Hamon in shnayim mikrah would be a good time for its reading [imagine b’dieved the whole week – despite the benefits of Tuesday mentioned above].

    DQB

    #1055772
    apushatayid
    Participant

    My opinion is irrelevant. According to the Levush (quoting the yerushalmi) there is a segula for one who recites it every day. I have no idea why this particular tuesday is any more significant than say any other tuesday or even august 27th. of course there is no downside in saying it. at the very least (and this is no small thing) one has the limud hatorah involved in saying the parsha. perhaps there is something extra special about this particular tuesday. I come from a long line of litvaks. We are not into segulas, we are into following the shulchan aruch and poskim (not that one who is “into segulas does not). saying parshas haman every day is brought down by the poskim. i’m not familiar with reasons for this particular day. are you?

    #1055773
    MDG
    Participant

    I did the segula yesterday without doing it. I have to the Parasha anyways, so I did Shnyim Mikra and Targum yesterday.

    #1055774
    Bookworm120
    Participant

    Why am I the only one who brought their grogger…?

    Oh.

    #1055775
    apushatayid
    Participant

    Among the long list of parhas haman “jokes” that were sent around on tuesday is a line attributed to the satmar rebbe z’l. the segula of “prashas haman” only works until 9am, then you have to go to work.

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