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    MRS PLONY
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    Hello Coffee Room!

    I haven’t posted in a while, but I’m still loyally visiting YWN.

    I need expert advice, because my family has moved. Before this, we had been using a gas oven, but the new place doesn’t have a hook up for natural gas. The house came with an electric oven, but it is not new, and it is not kosher.

    We can either install our old oven and have it adapted to use propane, and then get propane deliveries and hope that works.

    Or we can get a new electric oven. But I have zero experience with electric ovens, so I need to know if they can be left on over yom tov. What about a three-day yom tov? Can they be kashered for Pesach? Can the stove-top at least be kashered for Pesach, even if the oven can’t?

    I need the Coffee Room experts to rescue me from ignorance! Help me, YWN Coffee Room!

    #2581770
    rebEmes
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    Yikes electric is tougher with Kashering and issues with usage on yomtov (unless there’s a real shabbos mode) because any electrical reaction is not permitted as opposed to Fire and gas which is okay. I wish I could say I know something about this but you can definitely contact the OU and star k with model numbers and they will tell you if yours can be dealt with

    #2582048
    Kuvult
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    If it’s a standard electric model with manual controls a simple way to be able to use it on Yom Tov is to wire a light to a (for example) burner. When the light is on you can raise the temp on Yom Tov & when it’s off it can be lowered.

    #2582164
    Dr. Pepper
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    @mrs-plony

    Hi,

    Mazel Tov on your new home. When we last moved we also moved from a gas oven to an electric oven.

    We use a crockpot for cholent on Shabbos and we heat the oven on Friday afternoon with the soup and all the other Friday Night food in there and turn it off right before Shabbos.

    For Yom Tov we use the Shabbos mode. When we turn off the Shabbos mode the other settings are 12 hour shutoff, 24 hour shutoff and no shutoff. (You may need to remove the bulb beforehand – I’m not sure either way- the people before us did and I assume that’s why.)

    We have self cleaning oven so we can clean it for Pesach. The stove top is a glass stove top so we cover it for Pesach and use burners.

    There’s more that goes wrong with electric ovens than gas so be prepared to pay for appliance repair or learn how to do it on your own.

    I’m not an expert on food but from what I’ve heard – an expert chef would only use a gas oven (it heats more uniformly).

    Hope this helps.

    #2582530
    anonymous Jew
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    These are questions you shoul be asking your Rav, not anonymous posters

    #2582912
    MRS PLONY
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    Thanks, everyone, for the kind words and advice. And, yes I would ask a Rav if I had questions on halacha. I asked the coffee roomers to give me practical advice.

    So if I want to leave it on over Yom tov then I need a range with Sabbath mode. And the stove top can’t be kashered for Pesach, if I understand correctly.

    Does anyone have experience with adapting a gas stove to propane?

    #2583210
    Red Adair
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    Converting natural gas oven to propane:
    1. Most ovens can be converted via a kit. It isn’t a big job, nor is it terribly expensive. It should be done by a professional, for safety reasons and possibly legal ones.
    2. Make sure there aren’t any legal or HOA laws and regulations that prevent propane tanks, stoves, etc. from being installed at your new house.
    3. Calculate the cost of installing a propane tank and line as well as refills of the tank. Make sure you have a good place for the tank.

    Kashering electric ovens and Shabbos Mode:
    1. The Star-K website has very useful information about the kashering and Pesach-kashering of electric ovens and stovetops. Some types of ovens and stovetops are easier to kasher than others, while some are difficult to impossible and require work-arounds to ensure Pesach keilim do not contact the stovetop.
    2. Shabbos Mode is accepted by some reliable kashrus organizations and not by others. This is a topic that has several differences of opinion on what’s permissible and what isn’t. Also, there are different types of Shabbos Modes. Because of these differences of opinion it’s imperative that you ask your rov/posek what’s OK and what isn’t.

    Online sites, such as the OU, Star-K and others, are great sources of reliable information, but especially in instances where there are differences of opinion you should ask your own rov for a psak.

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