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    Lightbrite
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    What makes frozen blueberries not need a hescher?

    Is it the processing where they wash them before freezing?

    —Maybe it’s because I once found a huge hair in a bag of mixed frozen berries that now they freak me out.

    I think I need to chill and trust the kashrut agencies on this.

    Does having emuna in the chachomim make you more relaxed about trusting that you’re okay?

    #1214663
    mik5
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    Fruits and vegetables do not require rabbinic supervision, unless they are from Israel. I assume that frozen berries fall into the category of “fruits and vegetables,” right?

    #1214664
    theprof1
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    Fruits and veggies which as raw usually have bugs, require a hechsher that they were washed for bugs. Blueberries do not have bugs. The general production method of freezing doesnt come near anything treif.

    #1214665
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    You stated an assumption and used that assumption to prove your point?

    Some fruits and vegetables do, in fact require certification and/or washing/checking to avoid the issur of tolaim.

    #1214666
    iacisrmma
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    Theprof1: please read up on net-etiquette. All uppercase characters is considered shouting.

    #1214667
    mik5
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    All fruits and vegetables are kosher. However, the bugs that may be on them are obviously not. Therefore, one has to learn how to clean/ wash them. However, the fruit itself does not require rabbinical supervision. That is why it was very surprising to see peaches “certified” by the OU.

    Dates are often sold with a heshcher. I am not sure why this is so, and I would imagine that they still need to be checked?

    #1214668
    Lightbrite
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    I check some frozen vegetables, according the my OU kosher guidebook.

    I stopped eating pitted dates after finding one was filled with a _____. So gross I cannot say it. Thinking about it is nauseating.

    If they are not pitted, maybe they still need to check for bug infestations.

    Dried fruits can be infested in storage. Also, they may be used on shared equipment, maybe?

    Some dried fruits are actually boiled before drying.

    #1214669
    Meno
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    “That is why it was very surprising to see peaches “certified” by the OU.”

    You’ve seen whole fresh peaches certified by the OU?

    #1214670
    Neville ChaimBerlin
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    Mik, DY is right. I get what you’re saying, but with the way you worded it, it’s a big risk of lifnei iver if taken at face value. One can NOT buy a bag of lettuce without a hechsher. The OP was inquiring about pre-packaged things; you’re talking about fresh, loose produce in grocery stores.

    Also, I don’t think I’ve ever seen fresh dates sold out in the open in a grocery store. Commercially, they’re almost always dried or frozen or some such thing, and would require a hechsher.

    #1214671
    Lightbrite
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    Maybe it’s the wax coating that’s kosher

    Some fruits have waxy coatings sprayed on them that may not be kosher

    #1214672
    koshervyosher
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    Call any kosher agency , OU, Star K, OK , KOF K and cRc plus all local vaadim they will say that frozen fruits and vegetables do not need a Hechsher EXCLUDING those that have Tolaim issues. Abe even then, OU allows students strawberries add raspberries without checking….

    #1214673
    Meno
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    …OU allows students strawberries add raspberries without checking…

    Trying to figure out what this was supposed to say…

    #1214674
    dovrosenbaum
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    OU allows frozen strawberries without checking.

    cRc says frozen strawberries, blackberries, and raspberries are acceptable without a hashgacha, as long as they do not contain any added kosher sensitive ingredients. See their bug checking guide, available online.

    Frozen broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, brussels sprouts, spinach, etc. require a reliable hashgacha.

    #1214675
    theprof1
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    after all these comments, i’m still trying to figure out what i said wrong. it seems all bear me out. ok thats the way of this room, keep posting. am i ok now without caps.

    #1214676
    iacisrmma
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    TP1: I never said your comment was incorrect; just that you were “shouting”.

    #1214677
    Imanonov
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    It might depend on the country of origin but in the UK Blueberries, unless of superior quality, do need their crown cut off as that is an area of common infestation. They also need rinsing.

    Strawberries can also be quite often infested, at least again in the UK.

    If you buy any of these in order to make a smoothy from it, i.e. to liquidize it for a drink, you might not need bedika. However you may not liquidize it BECAUSE they are infected. Ask your local Posek

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