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Does anyone know any details about Gourmet Glatt’s rumored move into the current Shoppers on Smith Ave. or is it just a misinformed rumor?
That rumor has been around for a while (perhaps more hope than reality) as spread by those disaffected from the Seven Mile monopoly and having returned from a weekend visiting family in NYC, 5T or Lakewood hoping to someday have GG as an affordable alternative
Their not moving to Baltimore they are opening an additional Store in Baltimore their first one for Baltimore
The headline to this thread is what is misleading. They are not moving to Baltimore, it would be opening a branch
IMHO is it a stale rumor at this point. I will believe it when I see it.
There is a lot more to opening a store there than just having an available location and potential customers.
Like everything else in the world, there are politics. And of course logistics. The existing NY kosher distributors will not travel 200 miles out of their way just to deliver to one store. 7 Mile Market has their own truck(s) that bring them their stock. You can be sure they are not offering to share it with another store. And local distributors in Maryland already have contracts with 7 Mile Market that would be put in jeopardy if they agree to service their competitors.
Yitzyk,
Seasons did it
And gourmet glatt has a place in Lakewood so it’s not that much farther
I have been doing business with Gourmet Glatt for many years I confirm today that the Baltimore rumor is unfounded what is true is that they’re opening a second store within two months in Lakewood
Moishe,
I was replying to yitzyk, who said
“The existing NY kosher distributors will not travel 200 miles out of their way just to deliver to one store”
To all the CR Trumpkopf fans: Why would any reputable, high-quality food market such as GG want to move to a “disgusting, rat-infested mess of a city” [with a losing football team]??
They go where the largest frum communities are. Starts with Brooklyn, then Monsey, Lakewood, Five Towns, etc. Baltimore doesn’t rank. There are other larger frum communities that come before them.
Katanhatorah, GG affordable? You’ve got to be kidding! My wife will only buy there what is not available in regular supermarkets or Costco. Did you get this info from MSNBC or CNN?
Will not likely happen. I am assuming that the shopping center will require that any store which takes occupancy there be open 7 days a week. Secondly, the chain that is there now (Shoppers) seems to be looking to sell of all of their locations at once, not just a one-off with that store. Third, given that the former Seasons is around, the local kosher market might now be too flooded. If anything, it would make the most sense to have a Shoprite in there, which has more kosher certified products as well as models of a “Kosher Experience” setup that they have done successfully in NJ. They’d be able to be open 7 days a week and have the more general products and sections to service the non-kosher shoppers that live in the area.
@Gadolhadora: I normally find your comments to be witty and thoughtful, but this one is off base. Why inject politics into a thread about a supermarket? And the obvious answer to your rhetorical question is that many many Jews live there, so GG doesn’t care that some areas of Baltimore are disgusting and rat-infested.
I see references to the “former” Seasons. What is it now?
AJew: Actually, from the perspective of quality and selection, GG is quite reasonable plus the service in the two stores I have visited is excellent (compared to some other markets which don’t need to be named). Sure, if you have the time, you can shop Costco, regular supermarkets and local heimeshe markets and get a lower price for your combined shopping list. Most of us don’t have the time or interest so we will pay a small premium for the quality and convenience.
Yankelle: You are right (in re the politics) but I couldn’t get over the irrationality of so many here being big supporters of the Trumpkopf and say nothing about his slandering the residents of a major city but yet debating the merits of a high quality Yiddeshe firm relocating there. Couldn’t help myself.Yankelle: That’s funny, I find most of GH’s comments off base. This one though is obviously satire and entertaining. Of course GG could just get a few cats to keep the rats at bay.
Seriously though I haven’t been to Baltimore lately. Is the Smith area where Frum people are moving towards the city or the county side?repaired
Yitzyk, the distributors make it to Florida. Baltimore is on the way
Uncle Ben: I got that it was satire, just seemed to be unnecessarily turning the thread into a political discussion.
Ktorah, Sanders likened Baltimore to a third world country, it’s Mayor said she could smell the rats and Cummings himself called it drug infested. Trumps comments did not mention race or ethnicity.
Supermarkets are in business to make money, so they charge what they can. More competition usually means lower prices. There’s more competition in Brooklyn than in Queens or the Five Towns, and more in those than in Baltimore or Detroit. In addition, shipping costs raise the prices of kosher food that’s out of the NY area (though both Detroit and Baltimore have local CY milk, while LA imports its CY from NY!).
GG’s prices in the 5 Towns are high, but they seem to do a good business, possibly because area residents are less price-sensitive. GG opened Kolsave, with lower prices and a smaller selection in the old Brach’s location.. GG’s prices in Boro Park are higher than KRM’s and it shows in the relative amount of business they do — whenever I’ve been in GG-BP it’s been pretty empty, while KRM is usually crowded.
How well is GG doing in Lakewood?
Moishe: KRM is the country’s busiest kosher supermarket.
Joseph, I gather you’ve never been to GG Lakewood. How do you know that KRM is busier?
I have been there. Why haven’t you questioned the assertion that GG-L is the busiest?
The whole stupid argument doesn’t begin. The Jewish areas of Baltimore are NOT in Cummings’s district.
Being crowded doesn’t necessarily mean busiest, nor does gross sales. My local Costco doesn’t appear to be busy until you notice that their cashiering process is very efficient and lines are almost never long . KMR’s prices are low, GG is high, so higher gross sales at GG wouldn’t mean they’re busier. You’d need to know things like volume sold, and number of transactions.
Seven Mile Market and the owners give enormous amounts of support to Baltimore Jewish institutions and individuals in need and has done so for decades.
And they don’t have to asked for assistance, they are loyal partners of the community and know the community well.
It is unlikely that any interloper kosher supermarket will come anywhere near to Seven Mile Market’s commitment.
For this alone, Seven Mile Market should be supported exclusively by the Baltimore Jewish population.
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