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  • #612647
    popa_bar_abba
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    Sickening.

    I saw this perfectly heimishe family, who usually keeps kosher, and today they are eating Dunkin Donuts like nobody’s business.

    So I say, are those yoshon? And they say “it’s after pesach, we don’t worry about it again until sukkos.”

    And I’m like–???????????????????????? ?????????????????

    You only keep yoshon half the year?

    Do you only keep cholov yisroel half the year also?

    Do you also only not say lashon hara half the year?

    Do you also only call YCT “apikorsim” half the year?

    Do you also only not use the internet half the year?

    Do you also only count sefirah half the year?

    Do you also only not wear shaatnez half the year?

    #1012715
    Torah613Torah
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    Did they say “Yes, the other half”?

    #1012716
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
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    I actually only count sefira for less than half a year. I really have to work on that.

    #1012717
    HaLeiVi
    Participant

    I wear half of Shatnez.

    #1012718
    writersoul
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    I keep Shabbos less than 2% of the time…

    #1012719
    R.T.
    Participant

    ??? ????? ???? ?? ?????

    #1012720
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    I only say mashiv haruach umorid hageshem for half the year.

    #1012721
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Writersoul, that’s not good at all. (your math)

    #1012722
    yeshivaguy45
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    PBA, if this isn’t a troll thread, (which apparently the other posters are taking it like that) yoshon doesn’t apply from after pesach until sukkos because the the issur of yoshon is only until the new crop is harvested which is sefiras haomer, which literally means the cutting of the omer (bundles of wheat). Once that happens, there’s no issur of omer. The family didn’t literally say we keep it half the year. They said we don’t worry about it

    #1012723
    🐵 ⌨ Gamanit
    Participant

    writersoul- I think you meant 20%…

    #1012724
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    yeshivaguy:

    Thank you for taking the courtesy to explain.

    But explain this, if you CAN: Just where in the Torah does it say you can eat chodosh before sukkos?

    #1012725
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    The cutoff dates on certain products are actually before Succos.

    But you wouldn’t expect halachic precision from someone who eats Dunkin’ Donuts anyhow.

    #1012726
    yeshivaguy45
    Participant

    I did research on this online just now to find out when chodosh starts. According to an article on the star-k website, the halachic problem is whatever is planted after the 4th day of pesach. That’s called the spring crop and it doesn’t hit the market until the end of the summer.

    #1012727
    Geordie613
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    PBA, (even though I feel this is a wind-up, I’ll explain for people who may genuinely want to know)

    What yeshivaguy means, is that it is no longer called chodosh after the first days of pesach.

    Chodosh is from grain planted after pesach, and becomes yoshon at the next pesach. It does not hit the market until sukkos, hence there being no problem until then.

    #1012728
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    As if there’s a possibility that this is a serious thread.

    #1012729
    mobico
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    In the case that there is someone who truly wants to follow this up, the Sugyos are at the end of the first Perek of Kidushin.

    #1012730
    popa_bar_abba
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    What yeshivaguy means, is that it is no longer called chodosh after the first days of pesach.

    Depends what you mean by “it”. If you mean the wheat from 10 years ago, then yes, obviously it is no longer chodosh. But if you mean the wheat that is now being harvested and is chodosh, I’m having a hard time following.

    #1012731
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    If you mean the wheat from 10 years ago, then yes, obviously it is no longer chodosh.

    For at least nine years already. This past year’s grain just became muttar (e.g. Dunkin’ Donuts, although the pigs’ milk remains assur).

    But if you mean the wheat that is now being harvested and is chodosh, I’m having a hard time following.

    If it took root before the day of the hakravas haomer, it becomes muttar even if harvested later.

    #1012732
    writersoul
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    Gamanit: You do not want to know how mortified I feel right now…

    I’ll leave it at that :).

    Thanks!

    I think I’ll bow out.

    If you say “pretty please” I can make like it never happened . . .

    #1012733
    oyyoyyoy
    Participant

    cmon. even I know popas joking. (right?)

    #1012734
    mobico
    Participant

    I personally keep no more than half of Basar v’Chalav at any given time.

    #1012735

    how bout those who wear half a head-covering

    #1012736
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    I’m saying “pretty please”!

    #1012737
    charliehall
    Participant

    What yeshivaguy45 said. There is no way that a Dunkin Donuts could be serving chadash products this time of year. Besides, the Bach paskened that it is mutar all year and that is the ruling that the major American kashrut agencies follow. Popa, do some research before chastising others.

    #1012738
    charliehall
    Participant

    “pigs’ milk remains assur”

    No pigs’ milk or pigs’ milk product is sold in any Dunkin Donuts in the United States.

    #1012739
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
    Participant

    Popa, do some research before chastising others.

    Charlie, he was kidding.

    No pigs’ milk or pigs’ milk product is sold in any Dunkin Donuts in the United States.

    That’s what they claim.

    (I was also kidding about that part).

    #1012740

    Half posts are also…

    #1012741
    YW Moderator-42
    Moderator

    ChasidesheYUtype, how about those who wear half a double-head-covering? 🙂

    Popa, how much of Hallel did you say today?

    #1012742
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    Some of the Dunkin Donuts have Hechshers, Av en J and Ave M do and I think there is one on Coney Island Ave that does too

    #1012743
    147
    Participant

    I have heard of 1/2 Yom Tov:-i.e. Observing 1&1/2 days YomTov when in Israel, which is as old as antiquity, but 1/2 Shabbos is an entirely new one to me.

    Maybe the person is off the East coast of Australia on a ship on Friday nite, and on Saturday morning jumps onto Australia land, so is left with 1/2 of shabbos.

    Short of this, I cannot for my life figure out what 1/2 Shabbos implies?

    #1012744
    zahavasdad
    Participant

    147

    Half-Shabbos refers to a practice especially among teens who text on shabbos R”L and claim they are observing “Half-Shabbos”

    #1012745
    👑RebYidd23
    Participant

    It means not all the way. But I admit to keeping Shabbos only once a week.

    #1012746
    popa_bar_abba
    Participant

    Short of this, I cannot for my life figure out what 1/2 Shabbos implies?

    It refers to people who do zachor but not shamor, or the opposite. Like eating milchigs on shabbos.

    #1012747
    147
    Participant

    There is absolutely no prohibition to consume Dairy food on Shabbos.

    Most Shabbosses I drink dairy ice coffee before attending services in the morning, and eat cheese cake @morning Kiddush time, and consuming Dairy, certainly leaves one in the category of fully Shomer Shabbos, and not 1/2.

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