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How much do you think one should / can daven for something? In this case a refuah for someone. (Obviously including that the tefilla should be answered ltova). What is the limit? Whats the most you’ve ever davened for something?
I daven for Moshiach every day..Never stop davening for something!!
My mother has a long-term back problem. I have been davening for her for at least the last twenty-five years and will continue to do so as long as it is necessary.
The Wolf
As much as u can. Kinda like how much wood a woodchuck would chuck.
Ok thanks…anymore answers anyone?!
Moshe Rabbeinu davened until Hashem told him “Stop!” So Daven until Hashem tells you “stop!”
You just keep davening. In addition to the daily davenings, I heard a great shear that said something to the fact that you find a wall, stick your nose in it, let the tears come down, and just daven, daven, and daven. I believe the Rabbi also said according to a few gedolim, when you do this, your prayers have to be acknowledged. There is no way they are not heard when you get that up close to Hashem with deep, sincere, prayer.
TRIVIA QUESTION: – When the yidden were trapped by the Yam Suf in front of them (BEFORE it split), and the Mitzriyim behind them, they cried out to Hashem for help and davened for a yeshua. Surprisingly, Hashem said to Moshe Rabbeinu why are you davening?? Go into the sea! Q:What was wrong with davening to Hashem?
Jothar you took the words right out of my mouth. I was going to post the exact same thing
No limit! until you’re answered. If the thing you ask for is good for you that is.
After you’re answered there is also no limit to thanking HB”H.
You should thank him everyday for giving you what you asked for.
about yam suf:
a part b question might be
Why do we then say in slichos Mi she-anah laavosainu al yam suf?
does anyone know an answer to this apparent contradiction?
Pray until you realize that only Hashem can help! Hashem and no one else!(no doctors…) Tell Hashem that you KNOW only He can help you! then continue to Daven until He answers you. Once He does, dont forget to thank Him!
but the most important thing to remember is to never stop praying because G-d never stops listening!
keep praying always and realize that not one of your tefillot go to waste. if Hashem didnt answer you the first time you prayed then it wasnt good for you then but that tefilla still did something!
it couldve even saved someone across the world. Keep praying and Hashem will answer when its good for you but each tefilla makes you more worthy of being answered. [maybe in order to be answered you had to pray a certain amount];) may Hashem answer all your tefillot!
Rav Shimshon Pincus brings a comparison; a poor man asks a rich man for a gift and he says no, he asks again and he says no, the rich man has shown that he does not want to give the gift, asking a third and fourth time will not only not help it might make it worse, but by Hashem it is completely different he wants the best for us always, only there is some reason He does not grant it yet, asking again and again is actually very pleasing to Him, and shows the individual knows the “right address” to find the answer.
This is discussed in Gemara Berachos, and answered from the examples of Moshe:
It is a wide range between:
5 words as in his prayer for Miriam’s recovery, and
40 days as in his prayer for the Jewish people after the golden calf.
Everything has a spiritual price tag :-). Keep davening.
Daven but don’t be a nudge because you might get what you asking for eventhough you’d be better off without it.
Example: See Parshas Toldos – Hashem promised Yitzchok a child but after many years without a child, Yitzchok bagan to overdo it with t’filos(V’yetar Yitzchok La’shem), so Hashem gave in to Yitzchok and children were born ahead of the intended time, by five years. As a result, Avrohom died five years sooner, as he was supposed to live to 180 but died when Eisav went bad, see Rashi.
Wondering: good question! Rebbe Nachman of Breslov, and modern Breslovers, teach that everyone should pray at least an hour a day of personal prayers in his/her own language, including thanking Hashem, examining one’s deeds and doing teshuvah for them, and asking Hashem for whatever we need physically or spiritually. Rav Shalom Arush, in his book In Forest Fields (which I highly recommend), says that one should devote half of one’s personal prayers (hitbodedut) each day to the one big thing that you need (in his examples, often this is overcoming a particular negative character trait or tendency to sin in a certain way). If the thing that is concerning you most is the refua for this person, perhaps you could devote a fixed amount of time each day, perhaps at least 30 minutes per Rav Arush’s teaching. Rav Arush also discusses in that book the concept of a six-hour prayer session when a major salvation is needed. Rav Moshe Erez Doron has also written quite a bit about personal prayer that is worth reading. For example, in Make Every Word Count he addresses the question of whether Hashem can get “bored” with our “repetitive prayers.” The answer: no! Rav Arush also addresses similar questions.
People see Breslov practices and advice and think they’re only for the Breslovers, but the truth is many non-Chassidic rabbis throughout the ages have had similar advice, to spend much time in personal prayer. And more recent non-Chassidic rabbis have also learned from Rebbe Nachman’s teachings. For example, Rabbi Eliyahu Dessler encouraged his children to read Rebbe Nachman’s works, and the Baba Sali and at least some of his sons learned Breslov works and gave them as gifts to their children.
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