If you love fish then why do you eat them?

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  • #1581156
    Haimy
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    As Dr. Twersky says, if you really loved fish you wouldn’t eat them. You love yourself, you love how fish makes you feel. Same for MBD & Shulem Lemmer, you don’t know or love either of them, you love how you feel listening to them.

    #1581532
    ChadGadya
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    Of course with fish “love” is just a figure of speech. But if another human being, especially a yid, makes me feel good and happy through their music, surely some of that gratitude and appreciation can manifest itself as love. An amplification of the veahavta lereacha kamocha that we should be feeling anyways towards every yid.

    #1581230
    Reb Eliezer
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    ויאהב יצחק את עשו כי ציד בפיו ורבקה אהבת את יעקב the Meforshim explain that this was the difference between Yitzchok and Rivka. Yitzcok loved Aisov because he hunted for his mouth, realing loving himself, but Rivka loved Yaakov without self interest.

    #1581668
    ubiquitin
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    ” Yitzcok loved Aisov because he hunted for his mouth, realing loving himself, ”

    And yet the Passuk says “ויאהב יצחק את עשו” showing that like in English to Love something doesn’t necessarily exclude self interest.

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    #1582126
    ☕️coffee addict
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    Haimy,

    I love fish and the reason I eat it is so that I become one with the fish

    #1582421
    Reb Eliezer
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    ubiquitin, maybe there is a difference between the two expressions of love. By Yitzchok the love was for the duration as Aisov provided for him, but Rivka’s love was constant.

    #1582422
    Reb Eliezer
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    The above explanation is as it says in Pirkei Avos 5 אהבה שתלוי’ בדבר that the love that is dependent on something only lasts as long that something is provided.

    #1582444
    Milhouse
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    The paradox is not real; it’s an artifact of the fact that the English word “love” has two distinct meanings, and the paradox is actually a play on words, using the word in one sense in the first half and the other in the second half. In Yiddish the question doesn’t make sense, because there are two separate words for these two senses. The kind of love one has for people is called ליב­­-האבן; the kind one has for food that one likes to eat is האלט-האבן. In Yiddish one does not say איך האב פיש ליב, but rather איך האב פיש האלט.

    #1582464
    ubiquitin
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    Laskern
    You can make up all the distinctions you want. The bottom line is Yitzchak’s “Love” for Eisav is called “Love”
    I’m not disputing that the reason, or type of love between ויאהב יצחק את עשו ; and ויאהב יעקוב את-רחל are different.

    I’m just pointing out that whether תלוי’ בדבר or not, or whether you actually “love how it makes you feel” or not that is still called Love, in lashon hakodesh

    #1582467
    Doing my best
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    Why do people say they love babies so much that they want to eat them?
    does it mean they’re cannibals and they don’t like the baby?

    #1582454
    Reb Eliezer
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    Milhouse, Ich gleich גלייך fish is what I say, I don’t know what you are saying.

    #1582459
    Reb Eliezer
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    In English we say, I like fish rather than I love fish.

    #1582621
    👑RebYidd23
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    So people who truly love MBD and Shulem Lemmer don’t like their music?

    #1584062
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    I love myself and want to eat MBD’s music. Sorry for bragging.

    #1584112
    yehudayona
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    On the Aish website there’s an excellent video called “Fish Love.”

    #1587244
    WolfishMusings
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    “Love” can have more than one meaning.

    Or do you think the second amendment to the constitution is about going sleeveless?

    The Wolf

    #1587387
    ubiquitin
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    Wolf

    It doesnt say “bare arms”

    Though I did see a cartoon of a founding father holding up of pair of bear’s arms (as in an animal’s arms) and saying everyone has a right to these , please make that clear

    #1587673
    👑RebYidd23
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    If you accept the definition of love as a deep emotional commitment to another person and desire to promote that person’s well being, love for a fish would make you pay its veterinary bills, not eat it. But if you love a singer, people listening to their music is typically what they want, so you would probably hear more of someone’s music the more you genuinely loved them.

    #1823322
    Jzq
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    I do love fish I love it so much that I want to make a part of me

    #1823459
    banjobob
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    *it means we can do whatever we want with them (obviously not making them suffer) but that includes eating them

    #1823458
    banjobob
    Participant

    If you love a fish so much that you don’t eat it you may as well marry it. They were created to serve humans (like every animal) and that means we eat them

    #1823687
    Jzq
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    Fish live matter 🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋🐋

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