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What are the best methods in dealing with incorrigible children?
Who determined they are incorrigible?
Kill him by stoning
Ben sorer umoreh style
Be positive with them.
Constant incorrigment.
The definition of “incorrigible” is the inability to be corrected. Long before a response to this question is deserved, there must be something convincing that we are dealing with a truly “incorrigible” child. There are children that can be difficult, and these difficulties can vary among a wide spectrum of possibilities. But to determine that someone is hopeless is a problem. Who paskens this? A frustrated parent or rebbe is hardly qualified to apply such a finalistic label.
There is no such thing. Anyone can change and anyone can do Teshuva. Even Nero, Nevuzaraden, Bnei Korach, Bnei bonov shel Homan. Acher.
in·cor·ri·gi·ble
inˈkôrəjəb(ə)l/
adjective
1.
(of a person or their tendencies) not able to be corrected, improved, or reformed.
synonyms: inveterate, habitual, confirmed, hardened, dyed-in-the-wool, incurable, chronic, irredeemable, hopeless, beyond hope; More
noun
1.
an incorrigible person.Are you asking as a parent or teacher?
Parents are often told ” He’ll/She’ll grow out of it.” Most often that comes true.
A teacher has limited time and is responsible for 20-35 others.
Even with so much advise from “experts”, in the related fields, I’m kinda pessimistic if the child is truly incorrigible.
Maybe one gets lucky and hits the right button.Don’t try to corrige them.
Ha-Shem designed little kids. They are supposed to be that way. They event turn into grown-ups. As you did.
Maybe the parents are the ones who are incorridgible
Baltimore: What about a ben sorer umoreh?
Joseph,
Incorrigible is a statement about the caregiver more than the child – i.e., “not able to be corrected, improved, or reformed” by the parent or teacher. The solution, therefore, is to reach out for assistance. A rav, a frum counselor or parenting expert, or even a peer who has an outside perspective.
slominer,
“What about a ben sorer umoreh?”
Show me a case where someone was actually in this halachic category, and then we can talk.
The Gemorah quotes an Amora who testified that he personally stood at the grave of a ben sorer umoreh.
Actually, it was the Tanna, R. Yonasan.
In any event, there is also an opinion that it never happened. Then there’s also the point that R. Yonasan was a Kohen.
Kill him by stoning
Ben sorer umoreh styleThat’s what they should have done to me when I was thirteen… ah well, missed opportunities.
The Wolf
Why do you hate yourself so much when you’re such a great person?
Why do you hate yourself so much when you’re such a great person?
Your question contains a fatal error.
The Wolf
I disagree.
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