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We assume that posters are not trolls, and posters publicly post what they actually and honestly believe in.
If so, is it a public shaming to identify the poster’s real name?
If the poster believes in what he posted, he should be ready to stand behind it proudly. But if the poster is embarrassed by his posting, maybe he shouldn’t be posting it!
If there is any embarrassment, it is from the commentary that he posted, not the revelation of his identity (he isn’t embarrassed by his name; he is embarrassed that HIS comment, which HE posted, is now attributed to his actual name)!
The risk of someone “outing” the identity of a poster would deter trolls from posting outlandish opinions.
If someone wishes to remain anonymous, then revealing his name would be Megaleh Sod, which is a form of Lashon Hara. Of course, if a poster does not conform to the rules of the board (unclear though it may be what exactly they are), then he and his anonymous screenname should be removed.
We assume that posters are not trolls until it becomes clear that they are trolls and, clearly, regulars on this blog know who they are.
The fact that this YWN web site permits us to comment
using false names — that fact implies that the owners and
managers of YWN do NOT want real names to be revealed.If you read the official rules of The YWN Coffee Room,
they clearly state that personal information NOT
be revealed in The YWN Coffee Room.Thank you.
@qwerty how do you know the real names of users?
Well what about the mekoshesh and Rabbi Akiva ?
gornisht, rather than posting mishlei, please tell us what your posek says about these things.
on the halochos,
see Rambam Deot 7: discovering private info by itself is rachilus: One who spies [meragel] on his fellow transgresses a negative commandment, as it is written: “Don’t go about as a rachil among your people.”also, Bava Basra: chezeh reya, CM 144: not to look at someone’s house
reading someone’s private letters – R Gershom; Hilchot Ketanot 1:276
gornisht > one who writes good, bad or ugly comments about other people, using THEIR real names, MUST remain anonymous with their own identity masked behind a username?
I would say that someone whose info was posted online, has a right to post info about the offender. But I hope (and presumably you hope too), he first asks beis din about it first.
So basicly don’t let anyone air out thier grievances I think ashregg was right. Call it out. If that’s what you want. But to publicly shame someone or osteisize them….is denigrating thier inherint humanity and i don’t know if that’s ok….
Proverbs 25:9 instructs people to argue their case with a neighbor without revealing another’s secret, emphasizing discretion and respect for others’ dignity.
Qwerty.613 glad your finally reading things in context. Kudos to you.
But I think your being legalistic, sadly
If someone privately shares with you an unlisted cell number and you should not betray their confidence that same principle should also apply to not betraying someone’s confidence even _if_ they weren’t the ones who shared it with you.
The _principle_ isn’t that your “allowed” to in other circumstances. The principle is in general betraying someone’s confidence is _wrong_
Your right that context matters but don’t lose the plot by being too overly technical.
Otherwise your justifying yourself.
It’s like those people who say “well God didn’t explicitly state that I can’t that means it’s ok…..
No the heart of the matter is how to repeat people’s dignity.
Stop losing the plot*repeat: treat
YWN got rid of qwerty613 and MSwaytogo and therealcharidy. We must remain vigilant to prevent our Coffeeroom from becoming infested again with such rodents.
Mods, welcome back from your – well deserved – vacation! I hope you’ll expunge the couple of posts with personal information.
It is very concerning how one poster and a couple of posts can be so damaging … I am again suggesting to use LLM prompt to pre-moderate the posts, if you are not doing it yet. The prompt should ask:
does the post contain personal information, such as real name, address, email address, phone numbers
does the post use impolite, inflammatory language
etcIf you keep an archive of rejected posts, it can be used to train the prompt. Will be happy to help.
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