Is Miami a good town for Jews?

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    BuyPaint
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    I lived there for a year before becoming orthodox.

    It was hedonism, disgrace, crime and distrust.

    I met a few jews who were not that active in kiruv or even observance.

    Overall, I may not plan to go back.

    There was sleaze on every corner and I certainly do not miss the beach.

    The only thing I will say though is that it really is a fun place. Lots of good places to visit if you keep half of your eyes closed.

    Overall again, I found that I would now seek to go there just to find a good cigar community. Of that I am certain I would have good times.

    You could be anywhere to improve your yiddishkeit. Reading is an indoors experience.

    So I have not been there in years. I read the Miami Herald. It contains descriptions of the most heinous of crimes. Worse usually than any I read elsewhere.

    Could we keep our Miami interests or if we are in years of formative learning, will our young invariably have years of harm based on not yet fully developed yiddishkeit.

    Still, I would love to go back now that I can see life through the prism of Torah. I think I could make a better difference.

    Hope some of you are lucky enough to study a place like Miami, but beware, it is almost the modern Babylonia.

    And so many jewish interests, you can certainly see Hashems plan.

    Be good.

    Baruch Hashem

    #1062780
    Joseph
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    Freiliche Purim!

    #1062781
    TheGoq
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    So what the only place we can live is Siberia?

    #1062782
    BuyPaint
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    Honestly, I liked Florida. I liked the weather. Who doesn’t like that. But it does seem that the most wicked head to the nicest places. Is that good for Israel? Could be. If we are a nation of priests, we are actually NEEDED. Miami hopefully is far from anti-semitic.

    But the smile can fade fast when you are shirked or you are roped.

    So is it the safest place? Clearly not.

    But Hashem can guide our footsteps.

    I will not be going there any time soon. My family lives in the North and I like having family to live and spend time.

    But who could deny that Miami is not judaism for the future. Orthodox interests are well represented. There is culture and art. There is much to do without a three piece suit or a sweater or coat, but the reality is that the cooler weather can be nice on the soul.

    Shalom.

    #1062783
    takahmamash
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    There is no kedusha in Miami.

    #1062785
    Lovelyme
    Member

    The weather is amazing! Especially in the winter! I was just there and there were so many Jewish ppl!

    #1062786
    ☕️coffee addict
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    takehmamash,

    tell that to all the rebbes, roshei yeshivas, and mekubals that go there

    tell that to the rosh yeshiva of beis moshe chayim

    tell that to the rosh kollel of the lakewood kollel

    #1062787
    takahmamash
    Participant

    takehmamash,

    tell that to all the rebbes, roshei yeshivas, and mekubals that go there

    tell that to the rosh yeshiva of beis moshe chayim

    tell that to the rosh kollel of the lakewood kollel

    It would be my pleasure to do so. There is more inherent kedusha in dirt the size of my fingernail taken from the shkotziest place in Tel Aviv than there is in all the places you mentioned combined.

    There’s a mitzvah to live in E”Y. There’s no mitzvah to live anywhere else.

    #1062788
    BarryLS1
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    BuyPaint: Why would you even contemplate going to a place that you describe as you do? Ask yourself, where does Hashem want Bnai Yisroel to be and then act accordingly.

    coffee addict: Going someplace for sunshine and/or fundraising doesn’t make it Kodosh.

    #1062789
    ☕️coffee addict
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    takehmamash,

    i dont think theres a mitzvah to live in a place if it’s not feasable to provide for oneself withouut assistance from others (correct me if im wrong) if it says by shabbos aseih shabboscha k’chol v’al titzareich l’briyos by shabbos all the more so by eretz yisrael

    secondly, you mentioned miami specifically

    There is no kedusha in Miami.

    but now you’re saying eretz yisrael is more holier because it’s eretz yisrael meaning even new york has no kedusha

    #1062790
    ☕️coffee addict
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    barryls1,

    “the lakewood kollel” and “beis moshe chaim” are two batei medrashos there

    secondly being kadosh is different than having kedusha, if something has no kedusha then in essence it is tamei and i dont think these rabbonim would go to a tamei place for sunshine or fundraising (have you ever seen one doing that in a beis hakvaros)

    #1062791
    dafbiyun
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    North Miami Beach has a very nice frum neighborhood, a Kollel, a chasiddishe shtibble and Chofetz Chaim Yeshiva. I find it to be a great place for vacation ( you can rent a nice kosher house w a pool quite reasonably).I would consider living there during the winter,after retirement.

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