Is there anyone nowadays that would be universally accepted as Moshiach?

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    the-art-of-moi
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    Its hard to imagine who nowadays could announce themselves as Moshiach (and truly is) and everyone will follow him? Do you have any idea as to who is universally popular nowadays?

    Lebavitches will wait for there Rebbe no matter who turns up.

    Chassdim will all wait for a Rebbe (perhaps of their own dynasty) to turn up?

    The true Litvishe will never follow a Chassdishe Rebbe.

    Sefardim would (i need help with this one) …

    What do you think!

    #981240
    ikno
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    art-of-moi, you have to stop being so worried , it’ll all be good!

    when moshiach comes all silliness will fall aside, and i dont think its fair to knock each sect….

    #981241
    Sam2
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    It’s really quite a problem.

    #981242
    Fiddler
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    I think any of the following could be Moshiach:

    Rav Chaim Kanievsky

    Skulener Rebbe

    Rav Ahron Leib Shteinman

    Rav Shmuel Auerbach

    And the Litvish, Chasidish and Sefardish Torah world would *not* have any objections to accepting someone from any of the communities.

    #981243

    It’s not a popularity contest. “Being universally popular” has nothing to do with fulfilling the criteria of Moshiach. Moshiach will unite the Jewish people, bring world peace, end world hunger, and rebuild the Beis Hamikdash. Anyone who does all that, I should think, would be recognized by everyone as Moshiach.

    #981244
    chani91
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    sure there is someone living now who can be moshiach, in every generation there is someone duitable however we need to be Zoche and not let the opportunity slip away,

    #981245
    batseven
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    Mashiach is a tzadik nistar so no one famous we know is likely to be mashiach.

    He will come out of nowhere, and when it is really Mashiach, its not going to be a question. Everyone will know and it will be as clear as daylight.

    Of course, there are gonna be people who don’t follow- those are the people that are not going to be zoche to go to yerushalayim.

    But if you are a G=d fearing yid, it’ll be clear and we will all know.

    I hope it comes soon!!! I’m so excited!!

    #981246
    oomis
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    No, I do not believe there is, yet, because we have not proved worthy. Wouldn’t it have to be someone born on Tisha B’Av, btw (so I heard)?

    #981247
    showjoe
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    once moshiach comes, we’ll know who mashiach is.

    #981248
    Avi K
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    Rambam says in Igeret Teiman that Mashiach will live in obscurity until he is revealed as Mashiach. This would make the question a non-starter.If someone is universally accepted as Mashiach and does what Rambam says Mashiach will do (fight Hashem’s wars, build the Bet HaMikdash, etc.) he will be Mashiach.

    Actually, there are are two. Mashiach ben Yoseph and Mashiach ben David. According to Kol HaTor of Rabbi Hillel Rivlin, one of the talmidei HaGra who made aliya,the job of the former is kibbutz galuyot and building the material side of EY whereas the job of the latter is building the spiritual side culminating in the Bet HaMikdash. Rav Kook (Misped b’Yerushalayim) apparently held that Herzl, or perhaps the Zionist movement in general, was MBY. He explained the anti-religious aspects as a result of his concentration on the material.

    #981249
    pixelate
    Member

    Avi K- Rav Kook (Misped b’Yerushalayim) apparently held that Herzl, or perhaps the Zionist movement in general, was Mashiach Ben Yosef

    Please don’t make things up.

    #981250
    Little Froggie
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    I’m working on my resumes. Yeah, a hard job, to please all of Klal Yisroel, all the different sectors. Nu, what doesn’t one do for the sake of Yidden, to help bring Mashiach (Oh, I mean myself)

    Also, I’m anonymous here, a nistor, so I qualify. While I wasn’t born on Tishaa Baav (uh oh, giving away some personal info), I don’t think it’s a prerequisite.

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