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    sm29
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    People are always moving, either left or right. The point of Orthodoxy is that it’s about following the Torah that Hashem gave us. Obviously, there are many paths that one can take within halacha. One might be more into learning, another praying, another into chesed. One sings while davening, while another says it quiently. One does college and also goes to shiurim and so on

    When we practice, the intention should be that we are doing it to serve Hashem. When people start deciding to do their own thing

    like the different liberal Jewish groups, they are straying from that intention, and rather serving themselves and their own desires.

    We’re Not trying to put down people, they are fellow Jews too. It’s the ideology that is the problem. It’s understandable to want

    to practice your own way. But there are many ways to follow Torah within halacha. We just need to remember our purpose, which is to serve Hashem.

    It’s like when a woman tells her husband what she would like for a gift. He brings her power tools. She says, “I didn’t ask for this. I asked for a necklace.”

    For a strong relationship, we should give the other what They want, not what We want.

    It’s the same with food. There is healthy food, and not so good food like candy. We know what our body needs, fruits, vegetables, protein….

    We sometimes though have a sweet tooth and we give in to our desire. A little in moderation is okay. But remember that chocolate and the cake is Not the substitute for actual healthy food that our body needs. The point of food is to keep our body healthy, and so we should choose the right food that does that.

    So too, with our neshama, Hashem gives us instructions how to nourish our neshama and connect to our Creator, so our neshama can be healthy and we have a strong relationship with Hashem and each other.

    #1019912
    Torah613Torah
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    It’s very easy to convince yourself that you’re doing what you’re doing to serve Hashem. That’s why we all have an obligation to learn Torah on our own, and also to have Rabbonim who have greater Rabbonim they consult with etc. And that’s why we have the Oral and Written Torah which tells us what to do.

    Even the most misguided people don’t think of themselves as bad, but as misunderstood.

    But I agree with your overall point.

    #1019913
    sm29
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    T613 Of course, many just see themselves as they want to do their own way and they feel it’s fine. That’s why some people try to tweak things when they learn so they can justify their leniency and loopholes.

    The majority of Liberal Jews are just misguided and don’t know better. It’s their leaders that misguide them.

    However, every Jew has a Divine spark inside and can turn around.

    And we should remember that despite our differences, we are brothers and sisters

    #1019914
    ☕ DaasYochid ☕
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    Even the most misguided people don’t think of themselves as bad, but as misunderstood.

    It depends how deep you dig.

    #1019915
    2NI3
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    “We sometimes though have a sweet tooth and we give in to our desire. A little in moderation is okay.”

    that’s not ok – with torah and derech Hashem there is no giving in just a little and doing averios to satisfy our desires, everything we do needs to stem from the correct place.

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