President Donald Trump, Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence

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    CTLAWYER
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    @joseph
    Scooter Libby, who I know from growing up in New Haven is NO American hero. He is a a self-denying Jew. Calling himself ‘scooter’ to avoid his name, Irv Lewis Liebowitz Jr. in order to fit in at all the Protestant WASP boarding schools he went to: such as Eaglebrook and Phillips Andover. Many Russikes in New Haven started naming their sons Jr. to fit in with the long established German Jewish Reform community which named for fathers emulating the protestant settlers of New Haven.
    Disbarred for Moral Turpitude. An embarrassment to the New Haven Jewish community

    #1516330

    icemelter
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    Oh ya Trump sure is an oheiv yisrael. Breaking news- after the embassy moves there will be a back stabbing demand of Israel giving over control of 4 Arab villages in East Jerusalem to the palis as one of many steps towards the “peace process” and Arabs capital of Jerusalem. This will be one of many back stabbing decisions.

    Just when you thought the 2 state solution was dead and Trump became a Jew, you see it is well and alive in their minds.

    #1569213

    Joseph
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    We should all add a special tefila in our shemona esrei for the success of President Donald Trump.

    #1569315

    laskern
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    Joseph – There is a tefila אתה חונן לאדם דעת.

    #1569300

    Avi K
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    Icemelter, it didn’t happen. Not only that, it looks like Trump is going to ditch the PA. Meanwhile, his Press Secretary’s father is talking about buying a house in Efrat.

    Joseph, then kal v’chomer, ben beno shel kal v’chomer we should add one for the success of the Israeli government. I appoint you to write it.

    #1578286

    Joseph
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    The last known Nazi living in the U.S. was deported to Germany following a personal intervention by the Oheiv Yisroel President Donald J. Trump, ending years of legal and diplomatic wrangling of Germany resisting U.S. efforts to deport him there.

    “The president told me directly to make it a priority to get the Nazi out,” U.S. Ambassador Richard A. Grenell said, adding that Pres. Trump, himself a native of Queens, had known about the case because of its prominence in the local press. Mr. Grenell said he had “made it a point” to raise the matter in every meeting he took with German officials.

    #1578374

    JNN
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    why because he supports a state that beats up religious jews? i’d say he’s a soneh yisroel

    #1578426

    whitecar
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    @jnn exactly, thats why Obama and Carter were one of the best presidents we ever had. They knew the truth

    #1578924

    crazykanoiy
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    “And you know what? In the negotiation, Israel will have to pay a higher price because they want a very big thing, but I took it off the table. … There’s nothing to negotiate but [the Palestinians will] get something very good because it’s their turn next. Let’s see what happens. It’s very interesting. I’ve always heard that’s the toughest deal of all deals — it’s called peace between Israel and the Palestinians.” – The words of a “true oheiv yisrael par excelllence”.

    #1578984

    DovidBT
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    he supports a state that beats up religious jews

    You’re referring to the U.S.?

    #1579041

    Avi K
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    1. Bolton said that there will be no quid pro quo.
    2. Trump and Abbas hate each other. Abbas has already said that he will reject any plan.
    3. Abbas is going n 83, is in very poor health and has no obvious successor so he is more or less irrelevant from an objective perspective.
    4. An op-ed piece recently appeared in the Jordan Times saying that Jordan never really relinquished all claims to Judea and Samaria although the exact border is negotiable.

    My feeling is that Trump is going to suggest some kind of shared sovereignty between Israel and Jordan. This would benefit the Palestinians (as opposed to the PA) in that they will be much freer and more prosperous than under the PA kleptocracy. It might even be that Trump and Abdullah think that they can co-opt a potential Abbas successor with a governorship.

    #1579042

    Avi K
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    David, he is referring to the Peleg hooligans.

    #1589541

    ☕️coffee addict
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    Joseph
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    President Trump’s top national security adviser, John Bolton, dismissed the Palestinian territories as a “so-called state” during an appearance in the White House press briefing on Wednesday. He emphatically declared that Palestine is “not a state”.

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    chiefshmerel
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    And then they expect a peace plan.

    Peace will not come without concessions!

    #1598289

    Avi K
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    Chiefshmerel, you are right. the Arabs have to concede that we have the right to all of EY.

    #1598250

    Chabadshlucha
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    Have we added that he closed down the plo office in Washington? He really does seem to be a moshiach agent sent to fight against the anti Torah liberals and bring down yishmael which is the last power before moshiach as foretold in nevuchadnetzars famous dream in Daniel

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    DaasYochid ☕
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    #1598393

    Avi K
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    In gematria דונלד טראמפ=משיח בן דוד.

    #1598652

    ubiquitin
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    Avi
    Also = חצי מנה פלאפל

    #1599415

    Avi K
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    Ubiquitin, also אור הזהר. I also checked that website.

    #1604010

    yehudayona
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    I haven’t read the OP or any of the replies, nor do I intend to. I found this interesting quotation from R’ Avigdor Miller ZT”L. It’s originally from Awake, My Glory. I found it in Simcha Minute 2.

    Whom does the Jew admire?

    The genuine Jew looks to the man of character and good deeds, whereas the nations worship the demagogues and all who are skilled in manipulation of words. The Jews are “refusers” [sarvonim]; they see through the verbiage and imposture, and they refuse to accept whatever the charlatans offer.

    #1604020

    Avi K
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    I don’t think that Trump is a charlatan. He is a showman. Moreover, he knows who elected him and that he has to please them. Even if he is,
    what if the choice is between a charlatan and a crime boss? If he is are you saying that he should stuff his support for Israel and appoint enemies of religious freedom to the courts?

    #1604038

    baishatalmuder
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    The idea that Trump is an ohev yisroel because of those 2 things that he did, moving the embassy to Yerushalyim and commuting Rubashkin’s sentence is based on not at all understand how Trump works in regard to the pardon and no understand at to why is so pro Israel.
    The reason Trump pardoned Rubashkin was not because he sits and reviews the tens of thousands of petitions for pardons and commutations. Trump has handed out commutations to quite a few people and what they all had in common was that they he was inclined to grant the wishes of the person who asked him to commute somebody sentence. In the case of Rubashkin a child who had months to live appiled to the make a wish foundation which does whatever it can to fullful the wishes of children who are terminally ill. A yidishe boy’s wish was to meet with Trump and ask him to commute Rubashkin’s sentence, so he looked into it, found it to be excessive and so he commuted his sentence. He has done the same for celebrities who asked him to commute other sentences he deemed excessive.
    As for the embassy move the last thing on his mind was to do good for yidden. The people he had in mind were Evangelicals who are a major part of his base. They support Israel because they believe only then will there be the war described in the new testament as Armageddon where Yeshu will reappear and the yidden will then accept him. And at the dedication ceremony for the new embassy the main speakers were Evangelical ministers.
    When speaking about why Trump’s does what he does it pays to follow read about it in papers that cover him extensively.

    #1604074

    Joseph
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    Both Donald and his father Fred have had strong reputations as Oheivei Yisroel long long before Donald ever ran for President.

    #1604056

    Avi K
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    What about the facts that Trump’ son-in-law, daughter and grandchildren are Jewish and the fact that his late father was a major ohev Yisrael (he prefered Jewish tenants, built the Trump Village shul and donated every year at the dinner, and let tenants the rabbi told him were having money problems slide on the rent)?

    #1604480

    Doing my best
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    I don’t think Trump is actually moshiach as I’ve always imagined moshiach as bieng jewish. However it would seem to be obvious that he is a shliach from hashem to put the world in the matzav of mashiach.

    #1604483

    Doing my best
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    JNN,

    yes, but if the state which beats up religious jews would go kaput, so would all the religious jews who they beat up.
    Ever thought of that?
    besides, when there was a video of that chossid from an illegal hachnosas sefer torah, the cops arrested beat up the chossid and i don’t think anyone would say the cops are wrong.

    #1604484

    Doing my best
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    Not that i think the Israeli cops are always right, but there has to be someway to maintain order in the streets without the goverment giving each segment of the public exactly what they want.

    Please don’t attack me, just what i wrote.

    #1604513

    Avi K
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    Rashi says that the function of the shotrim (police) is to beat recalcitrants with clubs and straps. The Reish Galuta’s police even imprisoned people for haughtiness (Baba Kama 59b). However, the Israeli police have a new method. Skunk water, which I’m told leaves an extremely foul odor for days. Even that was the subject of a frivolous lawsuit.

    #1604505

    Oheiv Yisroel Par Excellence =Achasverosh?
    or
    Suleiman the Magnificent

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